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Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:33 pm Semi-colon comma |
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These words are stops of different lengths. The comma indicates a short stop/pause in reading with the eye or aloud. The semi-colon is a longer stop or pause in the same situation. It is used within a long sentence and breaks it up into two parts. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Don't bank on it |
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Alan Co-founder

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rich7 I'm here quite often ;-)
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Mon Aug 08, 2005 18:02 pm Ache vs pain |
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Would the sentence I have very bad toothache require the word "a" as in "I have a very bad toothache." I think that "I have very bad tooth pain" is a better answer, since the question does not indicate that you are looking for a compound word rather than a separate word.
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Norm Guest
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Tue Aug 09, 2005 21:19 pm Toothache |
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In all the tests that I have written under the heading incomplete sentences, the instruction is to find the missing word and the best missing word in this sentence is ache. The fact that toothache is a compound noun is not relevant. After all a compound noun is a word consisting of separate words joined together. _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Word Story: Search Engines |
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Alan Co-founder

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rich7 I'm here quite often ;-)
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sunny I'm here quite often ;-)

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Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:05 am Ache; pain |
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The question itself requires re-wording. The word 'ache' is a countable. So saying 'I have tooth ache' is wrong. "pain' is both coutable and uncountable. Feeling pain Having a pain in the neck.( refer Dictionary) If you want to learn the proper use of punctuation go to MLA style manual or APA. Go to Purdue University web site and seek - OWL |
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:21 am Tooth ache |
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In all the tests that I have written under the heading incomplete sentences, the instruction is to find the missing word and the best missing word in this sentence is ache. The fact that toothache is a compound noun is not relevant. After all a compound noun is a word consisting of separate words joined together. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Adverbs |
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Alan Co-founder

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Wed Aug 10, 2005 17:57 pm Ache and pain |
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| I would like to know the difference in meaning that a native makes between the two--'ache and pain.' |
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Akil Guest
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 19:49 pm Ache and pain |
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Thanks for your question. The simple difference between the two is that ache is a little more specific than pain. Both cause you to feel something unpleasant. Ache refers to some particular part of the body as headache/toothache/stomachache/eyeache and so on. Pain is less localised so you feel pain in certain parts of the body but you may find it difficult to locate because it covers an uncertain area so you feel pain in the head/in the mouth/in the stomach/in the leg but it's difficult to isolate.
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Alan Co-founder

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Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:03 am Ache and pain |
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Can we say that ache is something that is the result of some malfunctioning or illness and pain caused by some external agency? But then,how to explain stomach pain or back pain? headache; earache; toothache; stomachache. but also stomach pain and back pain. body pain or bodyache? One has said that ache is countable and pain is both countable and uncountable. Mr Alan has not given any explanation to the same.Would you please make things clear for our benefit? |
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Swamy Guest
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 17:36 pm Ache and pain |
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It is certainly difficult for a non-native to choose between backache and back pain. But inconvenience caused by external factors, I feel, can only be pain and not ache. |
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Narayanan Krishnaswamy You can meet me at english-test.net
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 17:51 pm Pain ache |
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Countable/ uncountable/ external /internal - all these are not really relevant to the meaning of the words. As I said before, ache is if you like the specific/ the local word because we or a doctor can isolate it but pain is much more general. You can have backache because there is something wrong with your back but you can also have (a) pain in the back, which is not necessarily related to your back. And then of course both can be used figuratively. You might like to know that a pain in the neck is an expression meaning a problem that will not go away. And perhaps there is a danger that this is what this discussion could become if we are not careful!! _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story New year resolutions |
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Alan Co-founder

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Fri Sep 23, 2005 16:42 pm Difference between semicolon and the word and |
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Hello. I'm new here, and I have some doubts I hope you can help me.
Do the sentences: "My head hurts" and "I have a headache" mean the same thing?
In what cases can "hurt" be used?
I know "sore" is an adjective. So, is it correct to say: I have sore legs?
Is the sentence "I have a headache" the same as "I have sore head"?
Thank you very much and sorry for the redundancy, but I want to get the confussion off me about these expressions. |
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