Google
English-Test.net
Find penpals and make new friends today!
 
base; foot; seat of a chair
interviewee
piece
machine
bottom
Free TOEIC test: Free word games online: Noun Quiz Answer
 
Username
Password
 Remember me? 
Search   FAQ   Memberlist   Profile   Private messages   Register   Log in 

past perfect v.s. past simple



 
ESL/EFL Worksheets and Handouts for Students Printable, photocopiable, clearly structured
Designed for teachers and individual learners
For use in a classroom, at home, on your PC
ESL Forums | English Vocabulary, Grammar and Idioms
"I am a doctor" - Could we make this sentence into Passive voice? | what does "back-strike" mean
Message Author
past perfect v.s. past simple Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:00 pm  past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Quote:
Residents living in the immediate vicinity of the prison were told to be on the look out for a group of criminals who recently broke out of gaol.

Hi, everybody !

As I see it, the event of "breaking out" is prior to the event of "residents being told". So, I presume, the part "who recently broke out of..." should be in the past perfect tense, i.e.

Quote:
Residents living in the immediate vicinity of the prison were told to be on the look out for a group of criminals who had recently broken out of gaol.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please

Thanks
_________________
Alex

A native speaker of Russian
lost_soul
I'm a Communicator ;-)


Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: South Park, Colorado, USA

past perfect v.s. past simple Tue Apr 03, 2007 13:39 pm  past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Hi LS

Was your sentence by any chance taken from the news?

Amy
_________________
Amy
.
ESL teacher, translator, and a native speaker of American English
Yankee
I'm a Communicator ;-)


Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 7351
Location: Northeast US

Are you a native speaker of English? Then you should read this!English grammar exercises — improve your English knowledge and vocabulary skillsStart exploring the English language today! Subscribe to free email English courseLearn to use the present simple with the help of this short story
past perfect v.s. past simple Tue Apr 03, 2007 14:14 pm  past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Hi, Amy !

No, it was taken from this site, from one of Alan's tests.

(Do you mean that in the news they always narrate in the present simple tense ?)
_________________
Alex

A native speaker of Russian
lost_soul
I'm a Communicator ;-)


Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: South Park, Colorado, USA

past perfect v.s. past simple Tue Apr 03, 2007 14:41 pm  past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Hi LS

The sentence is similar to "reported speech". The tense most likely to have been used in the direct speech is the present perfect:
"Some criminals have broken out of gaol, so be on the lookout for them."

In "reported speech", the verb tense back-shifts and the usual back-shift for the present perfect is the simple past tense.

I don't see the use of the simple past tense as something that would cause any confusion in the sentence, but you can also use the past perfect.
_________________
Amy
.
ESL teacher, translator, and a native speaker of American English
Yankee
I'm a Communicator ;-)


Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 7351
Location: Northeast US

Display posts from previous:   
"I am a doctor" - Could we make this sentence into Passive voice? | what does "back-strike" mean
ESL Forums | English Vocabulary, Grammar and Idioms past perfect v.s. past simple All times are GMT + 2 Hours
Page 1 of 1
Latest topics on ESL EFL Forums
idiom "the main chance"Experience vs Experiencesmeaning of "would have done"Phrase: saffron detective stories"Being HIV Positive" - Which kind of sentence it is?Is there any sentence where 'being' or 'been' is the only verb in that sentence?UP, UP and UPPoem "What's that to me if the end of the world will come..."Expressions: 'Luckily for him, a herd of goats was passing by only... 'fruit vs fruitsThe use of "averagely well"meaning of 'eligible'verb tense: 'I could've grabbed it if you hadn't pulled me off'be to + infinitiveMeaning of: 'You're too big for your own good.'Idioms: be on the roadGet to know vs. get to knowingA verb needed with 'coconut oil'past perfect v.s. past simple

Discover English-test.net
10 days for GREWhy can't l use the word "late" in this sentence?As a matter of glissTravel, teach and study in Chinameaning of slyGRE verbal preparation: Vocabulary Games: Adjective Verb TestGRE preparation test: Free online word games: Adjective Verb GameMeaning of fervid, vulnerable, saline, carnivorous, fallow, contrite, antiquatedPimsleur Language Tape: Pimsleur Japanese Comprehensive 1,2,3Esl lesson plan: Chit Chat: In the supermarketBusiness English language: Business buzzwords: Unethical investmentTwelve Angry Men audiobook download

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Subscribe to FREE email English course written by Alan Townend
First name E-mail