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past perfect v.s. past simple #1 (permalink) Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:00 am   past perfect v.s. past simple
 

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Residents living in the immediate vicinity of the prison were told to be on the look out for a group of criminals who recently broke out of gaol.


Hi, everybody !

As I see it, the event of "breaking out" is prior to the event of "residents being told". So, I presume, the part "who recently broke out of..." should be in the past perfect tense, i.e.

Quote:
Residents living in the immediate vicinity of the prison were told to be on the look out for a group of criminals who had recently broken out of gaol.


Correct me if I'm wrong, please

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past perfect v.s. past simple #2 (permalink) Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:39 pm   past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Hi LS

Was your sentence by any chance taken from the news?

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past perfect v.s. past simple #3 (permalink) Tue Apr 03, 2007 13:14 pm   past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Hi, Amy !

No, it was taken from this site, from one of Alan's tests.

(Do you mean that in the news they always narrate in the present simple tense ?)
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past perfect v.s. past simple #4 (permalink) Tue Apr 03, 2007 13:41 pm   past perfect v.s. past simple
 

Hi LS

The sentence is similar to "reported speech". The tense most likely to have been used in the direct speech is the present perfect:
"Some criminals have broken out of gaol, so be on the lookout for them."

In "reported speech", the verb tense back-shifts and the usual back-shift for the present perfect is the simple past tense.

I don't see the use of the simple past tense as something that would cause any confusion in the sentence, but you can also use the past perfect.
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