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Ask the ESL Chefs Tue Apr 10, 2007 23:03 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

I suppose this could become the advice center for food-related questions.

The woman (Ex/sort-of-still-my-girlfriend) has told me that she's making ricotta/spinach-stuffed cannelloni with meat sauce tonight for dinner.

She's only made this once and while it was a good dish (overall), the spinach/ricotta mixture was a bit bland.

(She brought it up. I did not concur when she said it, of course, but YEAH, the cheese/spinach stuffing was a tad bland.)

So I ask for advice from anyone who might be able to improve the stuffing:

What should we (well, she) add?

I'm thinking it could be as simple as olive oil and/or garlic powder, but I am out of my depth.

What flavors would go well with the base stuffing mixture of ricotta and spinach?

Thanks in advance,

Tom
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Ask the ESL Chefs Tue Apr 10, 2007 23:11 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Those sorts of ricotta mixtures are frequently very bland. A nice touch of garlic sounds good, but what about adding some parmesan, too?
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Ask the ESL Chefs Tue Apr 10, 2007 23:15 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

thanks, I'll give it a shot.

does it have to be parmigiana reggiana (expensive as heck here), or will the dried/grated stuff work (already have some in the fridge)?
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Ask the ESL Chefs Tue Apr 10, 2007 23:42 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Do you have expensive taste, Tom?

I'd give the fridge version a try. If it doesn't help, at least you'll know better for next time. Wink
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Ask the ESL Chefs Wed Apr 11, 2007 0:05 am  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

I have expensive taste if someone else is buying. hehe

In this case, I'm the one grabbing the spaghetti sauce and spinach at the store on the way home.

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Ask the ESL Chefs Thu Apr 12, 2007 0:25 am  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

prezbucky wrote:
garlic powder

Using fresh pounded or crushed garlic might make all the difference. Also, how about adding some chopped onion and a few shakes of black pepper?

Personally, I'd rather not use cottage (or ricotta) cheese for cooking and prefer the mature, full-flavoured kinds, like manchego, gruy?re (the real Swiss one) or Appenzeller.

PS: I thought you didn't like cottage cheese!
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Ask the ESL Chefs Thu Apr 12, 2007 0:45 am  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Hi Conchita

I've been waiting all day for a report on the outcome of Tom's latest culinary adventure. I wonder what happened. Wink

I'd also thought of some onion and freshly ground pepper, but was reluctant to go too hog-wild on the suggestions. Laughing

In the US, cottage cheese and ricotta cheese are considered to be two different things -- though I've never really known what the difference actually is (other than a very pronounced difference in the spelling). Cool
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Ask the ESL Chefs Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:04 am  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Yankee wrote:
cottage cheese and ricotta cheese (...) a very pronounced difference in the spelling.

Yes and no: I've just noticed that both words have 'cotta' (Italian for 'cooked') in common. Curious, isn't it? Maybe we could invent a kind of 'ricottage' -- how's that for a fresh cheese brand name?
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Ask the ESL Chefs Sat Apr 14, 2007 0:09 am  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Conchita

We'd use onion, but we feed table scraps (lol, she often eats as well as we do... spoiled little bugger) to our dog Molly. Apparently onions do not agree with dogs. I read that on Wikipedia, and since wikipedia is 100% accurate (lol), we've decided to be careful for her sake.

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The stuffing was greatly improved with the addition of garlic/parmesan(dry/grated)/olive oil. She also beat a couple of eggs into it. At the grocery store I saw some gruyere cheese and thought, "Now that would melt beautifully..."... but then it was like $8 so I decided against such extravagance. hehe

I'm sure it's at least partially out of home-state bias, but the only cheese I'll pay $8 for (unless in bulk...) is a good 5+-year-old Wisconsin cheddar.

Mozzarella does an adequate job of topping the dish.

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Ask the ESL Chefs Sat Apr 14, 2007 13:39 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Hi!

As I can see Tom?s problem with the a bitbland taste of the spinach souce is solved so I just like to add that in my town had been a small Italian fast-food restaurant where pure fresh spinach (as the owner tried to ensure Very Happy ) with a good part of garlic scalloped with cheese (what kind ever) had been provided. Additional they gave 6 small rolls of pizza dough. It soon became the town habitant?s favorite dish Rolling Eyes .

I liked it very much, too, notwithstanding I?ve heard that Italy had had problems with seaweed Laughing!

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Ask the ESL Chefs Sat Apr 14, 2007 13:49 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
I liked it very much, too, notwithstanding I?ve heard that Italy had had problems with seaweed Laughing!

Never mind, Michael -- seaweed is also good for you! Smile

PS: Or is it? Confused
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Ask the ESL Chefs Sat Apr 14, 2007 14:04 pm  Ask the ESL Chefs
 

Hi Conchita!

As the owner of the restaurant stems from Sicilly (so, far away from Seveso) I think I can accept the Smile !

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