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#2 (permalink) Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:37 am plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Hi,
In 1) I would prefer 'are' since the meaning is 'a teacher and fifty students are in this classroom.
In 2) You could use 'himself' but certainly not 'yourself'. Personally I don't like this 'himself/herself' construction when you don't know the gender of the subject. I prefer: Everyone has to do the report THEMSELVES.
Hope this has some use.
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#3 (permalink) Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:17 am plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Hello, In my opinion, i think that the answer for the 1st one is "ARE" because we used the "and" keyword in the sentence. If some context we say "there is a teacher OR fifty students in the classroom" => we will use "IS" here for the nearest noun ("teacher").
For the 2nd, i think both "yourself" and "himself" are OK but "themselves" could not be the pronoun for "everyone", in speaking is ok but i am not sure in writing. Please correct me if there is any mistake. Cheers, Hieu. |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:40 am plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Welcome to the forums, Sunflower.babe.
| Quote: | | For the 2nd, i think both "yourself" and "himself" are OK but "themselves" could not be the pronoun for "everyone", in speaking is ok but i am not sure in writing. |
As Alan has already said, "yourself" is not possible in Tortoise's second sentence.
"Himself" is possible, but the problem with "himself" is that it suggests that "everyone" consists only of men. Saying "herself/himself" is also possible, but is awkward.
I agree with Alan: I would prefer "themselves" in Tortoise's sentence. |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Apr 13, 2007 23:41 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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... except then we run into the singular/plural problem.
Is it more important to be culturally (?) offensive or grammatically illogical?
hehe
It's time to come up with non-sexed singular pronouns
HEIR & HEIRSELF!
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#6 (permalink) Mon Apr 16, 2007 14:07 pm is V.s are |
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1/ Well, let's look at the exact question:
- Can you see anybody in that classroom? - Yes. There _____ a teacher and fifty students there.
So, "are" is still the choice?
2/ Our grandfather ______ as an engineer for 30 years before he retired in 1998. a) worked b) had been working My choice is b), right?
3/ Which do you prefer to use, tortoise or turtle? Is "turtle" an American English word? And is there any difference between the two words - animals? |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Apr 16, 2007 14:31 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Hi tortoise
I have a number of thoughts about (1): - I personally think most native speakers would use 'is' in the sentence. - It could be argued the "a teacher and fifty students" is viewed as one unit. In other words, a normal "set of things" to find in any classroom is "a teacher and students".
(2) Both answers are possible.
(3) I almost always use the word 'turtle'. As far as I know, a tortoise is found only on land. Turtles are found on land and also in the sea. |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Apr 18, 2007 14:39 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Another question: Which is the best choice:
- Please call the doctor if the victim is _____ hurt. a) badly b) ally |
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#10 (permalink) Thu Apr 19, 2007 13:59 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Hello tortoise,
Am I missing something? Ally?!?! Did you mean ILLY? (which is also something I have rarely seen).
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#11 (permalink) Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:49 am plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Hi,guys
The answer to this question is a) badly,am I right? I am thinking that no reason to use ally here. And 'badly',is a kind of adjetive. So it doesn't affect this sentense. But if add 'ally',it's weird.
Please correct my mistakes if possible.
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| tortoise wrote: | Another question: Which is the best choice:
- Please call the doctor if the victim is _____ hurt. a) badly b) ally |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Apr 20, 2007 14:25 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Oh, no I meant "accidentally". And the question now reads: - Please call the doctor if the victim is _____ hurt. a) badly b) accidentally
So, what is your choice? |
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#13 (permalink) Fri Apr 20, 2007 14:59 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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They mean two different things. I would imagine one would want to call the doctor in either case, though with "badly" we know more about the severity of the injury. On the other hand, "accidentally" tells us more about the circumstances of the injury itself -- how did it happen, was it user error (negligence) or chance (accident)?
Both words may be seen as constraints -- when, exactly, do we call the doctor?
"Badly" could be used thusly: only call the doctor if the victim is badly hurt.
"Accidentally" might also feasibly be seen as a constraint: if it's not an accidental injury, don't call the doctor. If it was user error, let the victim suffer! (hehe)
Putting constraints aside, either will work, technically, in this sentence. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#14 (permalink) Fri Apr 20, 2007 17:54 pm plural or singular? Are vs. Is |
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Hi,tortoise
I think the answer should be 'accidentally'. However,I agree with prezbucky's idea that 'badly' is also okay when some special cases. I meant it depends on the situation. In my opinion,some of the questions are not great to let people answer without descriping the details.
Greetings!
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| tortoise wrote: | Oh, no I meant "accidentally". And the question now reads: - Please call the doctor if the victim is _____ hurt. a) badly b) accidentally
So, what is your choice? |
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