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| Che Gevara wrote: | Hi Torsten
better Conditions= better life or part of better life
Don't you think so? |
Well, better conditions means better chances to create a better life, it doesn't mean that everyone in the country has a better life automatically. The quality of your life depends on what you make of the situation you live in.
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| Wed May 23, 2007 12:24 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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I just want to say that the USA is a good place for immigrants cause they have or they think they gone have much more chances to make their life better than in the place they live in...
It doesn't mean that they love this Country..
I think the USA is a most hated Country in the world,after Iraq invasion...
We have contacts in many Countries around Europe ,so they say the level of people who hates this Country increases day by day in their Countries...
My president is a great friend of GWB and as I know Georgia is only Country increasing the number of troops in Iraq..
We're trying (Our Organization) to make Our president change mind,but at this stage We have no much power..
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| Wed May 23, 2007 12:52 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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| Che Gevara wrote: | http://youtube.com/watch?v=moutUEfqUQ4&mode=related&search=
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George Bush had higher grades at Yale than John Kerry, and he had higher intelligence test scores in the army than Kerry did. So I guess, in your opinion, we'd have been in even worse trouble with Kerry as president.
Anyway, what you're not old enough to know is that this is a classic genre of film that has been used against Republican presidents for decades. Every president since at least Ford has been painted up by the left as an imbecile, including Ronald Reagan. At the same time, they exhalt the intelligence of Jimmy Carter, who by any objective measure really was horribly incompetent at almost every aspect of presidential work, and most of our current foreign policy problems are in some way the results of this great man's incompetence. |
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| Wed May 23, 2007 13:24 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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| Che Gevara wrote: | | In my opinion,US is a target for so many immigrants,only because they think they can earn money,and make their life better... |
And after a couple years they complain that their friends and relatives back in their home country think they're made of money and write letters asking for outrageously expensive things. It's interesting and absurd to see some lady swabbing the floor of the small ice cream store she and her husband run -- where the kids are playing or studying in the back, because the parents can't afford daycare -- and telling me that her relatives back in Armenia or Romania or Jordan or wherever keep asking her to buy them a new car.
Contrary to your fantasy about the US, it takes quite a few years before some foreigners make enough money to have a higher standard of living than they had back home. One of my friends is a good example. She had a good life in Iraq, with her own house, a nice car, enough money, but after more than five years in the US, she's still struggling just above survival level. Despite the financial hardship, she still says her life is better here than it was in Iraq before the war and that she loves this country. Her reasons: No persecution by Muslims, much much less corruption, laws that usually apply equally to everybody, friendlier neighbors who aren't jealous and don't gossip about you all the time. She's got a million reasons, and says she'd rather spend her life collecting garbage in the US than living rich in Iraq.
If you visited my classes, you'd find the foreigners have plenty of other reasons to prefer living here, besides economic ones. Many foreigners are refused a university education in their countries, either because of the way the educational system is structured or because of corruption, but in the US they can study. One older student had been a wealthy businessman in Nigeria, but he had always wanted to be a teacher, and he was never allowed to study in his home country, but the US gave him the opportunity. Some of the reasons even surprise me: One lady gave up a prosperous life in China to come and work very bad, low-paying jobs in the US while she learned English, just because on two visits to the US she had observed that (in her opinion) American men were usually better husbands and fathers than typical Chinese men. She said she moved to the US hoping to have "a real family". Some Russian lawyer from St. Petersburg worked a dumb job in a fruit market here, saying a good husband was her only advantage in the US.
As for Europeans' opinion of the US, don't take it too seriously. There's a tendency for many people in Europe to be anti-American regardless of what is going on in the world or what the US is doing. It's true under every president, and a lot of it is based on fantasies about the US that date back as far as the early 19th century. It doesn't change much no matter what happens. And they're the first and loudest to scream that we should do something if they get themselves in trouble, like they did when they ignored Hitler too long. |
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| Wed May 23, 2007 13:37 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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| aleaf wrote: | | P.S. But ppl in Xinjiang Wei nationality Autonomous Region are allowed to go to everywhere freely i am sure. |
Aleaf, I appreciate your honesty in reporting that people from Tibet might not be able to travel freely. I can tell you, however, that the reason I know about the travel restrictions within China is that Han Chinese people I know in Xinjiang tell me they can't travel out of the province when they want to. They say that passage out of there is VERY restricted.
You also haven't explained how the rationale for the Chinese one-child policy is different from my state's rationale for allowing deer hunting. To many of us, it just seems like genocide has been shifted to another stage of life, all for material reasons, as if human life had no value other than economic. And it's said to be causing a lot of problems, because people prefer to give birth to boys and abort girls, so the number of boys in China is now quite disproportionate to the number of girls and is distorting society in various ways. I've also read and heard that when the families have only one child, he grows up outrageously spoiled, so that China is now having a problem with a generation of "little princes".
And as to whether or not most of the Chinese nation agrees with some policy or other, I have a hilarious quote from a Chinese official on some other matter, but I can't find it right now. In any case, he finishes his statements by saying, "The Chinese people have the freedom to agree with this policies, but they do not have the freedom to disagree with them." I have enough direct experience to know that people don't openly express their opinions. |
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| Wed May 23, 2007 16:04 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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I'm very suspecious about GWB inteleqt ,but anyway It couldn't be worse trouble.. I don't know who's more clever or who had higher grades or test scores..
I just know 1 thing GWB is real evil...
Can you realise 400 000 dead Iraq citizens,and 2000 dead US troops
Can you imagine how many injured people ?
What We've got ?
Is world saver after Iraq invasion? Is this Country more democratic?
I know 1 thing you've got
Your Country is most hated ever... and You have to say thanks to your president for that...
You can't realise how many potential Terrorists were born after this mess...
IF someone gave me 10000000000 $ and I had to leave my Country and lived in the USA I would never agreed..
So I'd rather be homeless than living in the USA ...
I don't think that all immigrants go to the USA to earn money but I think that's the main reason...
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| Wed May 23, 2007 16:25 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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| Che Gevara wrote: | Can you realise 400 000 dead Iraq citizens,and 2000 dead US troops
Can you imagine how many injured people ? |
Last I noticed, it was Islamic radicals (mostly foreign) and some dead-end holdovers from the Saddam Hussein regime that have done almost all that killing. They're bombing universities, hospitals, mosques, people shopping, people in line waiting to get jobs, children in line waiting to get candy.
And outrageous as that number of dead looks, those people have still succeeded in killing less than a third the number of people Saddam killed in just one genocide campaign. However, since you have openly stated that you admire genocidal dictators like Stalin, and mass killers like Che Guevara, you wouldn't really understand what is evil and what's not, because your moral perspective is skewed.
And, come to think of it, why don't you just excuse Bush as having made "mistakes", the way you have excused Stalin for his 30 million dead?
And since you've already stated that you have no desire or willingness to consider reports or points of view that challenge your petrified beliefs, discussion with you is really useless, because you've confirmed that you're more interested in feeling right than in being right.
| Che Gevara wrote: | | IF someone gave me 10000000000 $ |
I think you mean $10,000,000,000. But I'll excuse that mistake, because you come from a backward country. (Just kidding!)
| Che Gevara wrote: | | and I had to leave my Country and lived in the USA I would never agreed. |
This is absolutely wonderful news for us, because we don't need or want you. 
| Che Gevara wrote: | | I don't think that all immigrants go to the USA to earn money but I think that's the main reason... |
You don't have any idea what the main reasons are that people have for coming here. You don't even know the people. And the idea that everybody (except oneself) does everything for money is rather primitive. |
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| Wed May 23, 2007 17:52 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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Freedom is worth fighting for. We don't back down just because the insurgents can't handle a free/popular vote, a free iraq. People die in wars. The key is to stabilize a free Iraq, so that future generations of Iraqis (along with those who survive the political/regime change) can have a bright future.
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| Wed May 23, 2007 17:57 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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Beating a dead horse, but:
Iraqis showed that they wanted to be free by showing up en masse for the elections. The insurgents either need to accept that Iraq is going to be a free country and join in the political process themselves, or just get lost. IF they want a voice in their country, they need to speak and put down their guns and bombs. They're the reason we're still there.
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| Wed May 23, 2007 17:57 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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Aleaf, I appreciate your honesty in reporting that people from Tibet might not be able to travel freely. I can tell you, however, that the reason I know about the travel restrictions within China is that Han Chinese people I know in Xinjiang tell me they can't travel out of the province when they want to. They say that passage out of there is VERY restricted.
Jamie:
One of my students chances to come from Xinjiang i asked him the issue myself several days ago he answered me that they were allowed to come anywhere they wanted to go to. he is a minority living in xinjiang(wei nationality).
But another thing i want to talk about here. One of my students told me the situation in Tibet and Xinjiang were not so stable. One of her former classmates in high school left a college in xinjiang 'cause the former classmate was scared by the situation in the college. He said many local students went to the college with knife. and they left classroom without any permission. in fact teachers there did't dare to critisise such students. besides, it is said that if a foreigner including ppl from other parts of china travel some parts of xinjiang and Tibet, some local ppl will treat the traveller and force the traveller to present them some gifts or the traveller will be hurt.but i think not including Lhasa
these are the facts as far as i know up to now.
Further information is to be continued.........
One-child policy i don't want to discuss anymore because as far as i am conerned, first the policy hasn't affact my life, i prefer to have only one child 'cause giving birth to a child is not a haapy experience. every time a mother give a birth to a child is a kind of suffering. second, one =child policy makes me have a better life. i don't hope to raise a crowd of children . Third, it is so crowded in china i hope to lead a more tranquil life. and there are so and so on reasons.
I think the problem is there is a gap between us on when life begins, or which kind of life is more important. In my opinion a born baby is more important than a baby in embryo. i prefer to give up a child before he is born rather than put him in a miserable life after he comes to the world.
we hope to focus the limited money and energy on less children. it is the common opinion we chinese ppl have.
As to the comment the chinese official gave , if he really said so he was the son of a bitch. He should be remove.(How low quality he was! lol) But couldn't be that it was the interpretor that mistranslated what the official said. You know it is commonly that misundersanding occurs when a language is translated into another.
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| Wed May 23, 2007 18:00 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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you two should come and hang out in the US. You're welcome at my apartment.
We don't kick puppies (well the vast majority of us don't, anyway), the Gestapo don't kick down doors of law-abiding citizens, and a few McDonald's burgers won't give you a coronary. hehe
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| Wed May 23, 2007 18:14 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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great ! free of charge if i live there? hehehe
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| Wed May 23, 2007 21:02 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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What do We have now ?
is Iraq better ,more stable or democratic Country than it was before the invasion ?
The fact is that 99% Muslims hate Your Country...
Georgia is an ancient Europian County and you are backward minded person .
and your joke is very rude and stupid...
Yes,I will never live in the USA ,there are many reasons why..
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| Wed May 23, 2007 21:07 pm Why is the US the most powerful nation in the world? |
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thanks for invitation
but that's impossible at this stage I have so much to do..
thanks anyway...
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