bias (what is wrong with being a communist?)

[aleaf]

i think foreign countries have bias on CHINA… several days ago the campus shooting which happened in Virgi Tech…....some foreign wires reported that the shooting was commited by a chinese before they found concrete evidence…..terrible ! How could they believed all chinese were vicious? why didn't they suspect that it was done by a japanese or ppl from others' countries…....................

In these foreign governments's opinions chinese are all coummists and all spies…....

But what is wrong to be a communist???? i like…........

People here from others country, do you really know china well or you just leared chinese from your local mass media, do you have bias on china? why?
_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[Torsten]

Hi Aleaf,

Many thanks for your joining our forum, welcome to english-test.net! Could you please tell me what media you are referring to? The TV channel I usually watch clearly identified the shooter as a student from South Korea. I don't know what might be more important -- the nationality of the shooter or the fact that more than 30 innocent people were killed? As for China, I know that's a huge country whose influence on world politics has been rising over the past few years primarily of its stable economic growth. But maybe you can tell us a little more about yourself and your country? What do you think should the world learn about China?

Speak to you soon,
Torsten
PS: Could you please take a look at this and let me know what you think?
What is a meaningful message title and why is it important?
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic16459.html
_________________
Test Of English for International Communication
TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary

[aleaf]

Mr.Torsten:
you can go to this site for refernce NEWS REVIEW
http://mediathoughtsofnigel.blogspot.com/2007/04/shooting-of-32-people-at-university-in.html
There are still many others but most oif them can't be opened now... I think the reason is that chinese government has asked for a formal apology from these foreign wires.
I am a chinese.
But maybe i am a little bit over sensitive...........
_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[gq5974]

First, I respectfully express my condolence them.

I am a Korean. I heard first the shooting was commited by a chinese.
But this is not true.
I think that many Chinese were offended by misleading announce.
reckless annouce is always problem.

but I think that this misleading is not reletation to bias on China.
only false speculation is problem.

I have a problem related to bias too.
I do reluctant to talk to my nationality, because this massacre

[aleaf]

He is just an exception. at least the koreans i contacted were really polite and friendly..............
Here i just want to point out some distorted opinions about PRC . i don't mean to offend any koreans......
_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[genia]

Hi, I'm from Indonesia

I think that tragic incident was not related to any nations both China or South Korea. That is not the main issue. I think that important think about the incident that the gun used by the shooter was obtained from online purchasing and it shows how the internet (or technology) could be very dangerous when applied for wrong purposes. However, I think this website is a great example of using the technology for right purposes. Hehehe... Nice to talk to you all.

Genia

[aleaf]

but i just wonder why once something bad happens, some foreigners relate it to china? just because we are a socialism country? Is there anyone who can say that he has no bias on china especially chinese politics and PLA? why they don't like PLA?
_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[TranTolinh]

In answer to your question , can I ask you a question?
Is there a country existing in this world without bias?
In my opinions , we cant live in a country like that . You affirmed that there were some people in foreign countries didnt like China ,right? . However, I think whether they like socialism or not is their rights ; I appreciatet he freedom of speech . Each person should have their own thinking ,and ,of course, they can like or dislike something/someone because of some reason . We cant manipulate their minds ,right ? I am a Vietnamese citizen ,and my country is a socialist one , so although I dont like much the policies of our countries( socialism) but I dont have bias with them.

[aleaf]

for a second thought.....you are right Tran..... i am oversensitive..........in fact i don't like some foreign countries..........
Be yourself and don't mind others'criticize.......
_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[prezbucky]

If you're asking for a paper on the ills of communism, I can name a few (bear in mind that these do not necessarily apply to China -- China is moving briskly toward free market/free enterprise economics):

1) Extreme socialist economies are generally weak, since there is not enough incentive for entrepreneurs. Why should someone take on such risk and hard work if she cannot make money?

2) Because extreme socialist economies are generally poor -- not many entrepreneurs, not much competition, which equals crappy products and low supply... low supply with high and/or inelastic demand equals high prices, so it's tough on consumers as well -- and the output is not competitive, they have a tough time with trade.

3) Economic freedom is set aside in favor of forced economic equality. A person cannot just go out and make his own way. Mediocrity is elevated at the expense of greatness; a forced path is given favor over vocational choice.

4) Communist states are often full of government control -- controls on the press, on people's rights (where they can worship, where they can go, where they can live, where they can work, what they can do with their money -- if indeed they get to keep any, etc.). What you have is a huge government in charge of virtually everything... and far fewer, or diminished, personal rights/choices than are allowed in democracies/republics.

5) I disagree almost completely with what seem to be the founding bases of Communism:

a) Most people are helpless without government intervention. If left to their own devices, most will fail.

and

b) Individual rights to succeed must be thwarted so that nobody can become successful -- we'll take everyone's money and redistribute it out equally. That way nobody starves, but nobody really ever succeeds either.

and

c) Rich people are evil [some are, but so are some people from every class. And the rich create a lot of jobs]. We should steal their money and their assets, take over their businesses, etc. We don't like that some people aren't successful, so nobody can be successful.

To me, it is borne of defeatist sentiment.
_________________
Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee.

[neverland]

hi aleaf
i am a chinese.i do have bias with the socialism !i just want to ask you that do the chinese government in socialism now?? 910 chinese people will answer:no no no no... how long can communist party go???

[lost_soul]

Hi,

About China I heard once a terrible news conveyed to my ears by an American reporter. He stated that in China the Justice System simply sucks. I.e. they practice using lethal injection in capital cases (including cases which wouldn't be considered capital (like rape for example) in other countries) and many times they accuse and charge innocent people because noone gives a damn about trials. After the death sentence is carried out there is a rumor that the dead "criminal" viscera go for grafts for reach people. Of coure one doesnt need to be shrewd to get the idea of the connection between those judges who send people to death and those clinics which thrive on the paid bills of those reach people.

Sorry for being off the topic, but I've seen 2 times in this thread the expression "have bias on smth" (particulary in neverland and aleaf messages), but I've never heard it before and can scarcely guess what it can possibly mean.

could anybody break it down for me so I can sink in, please

Thank you !
_________________
Alex

A native speaker of Russian

[aleaf]

neverland
i have never said the present socialism chinese society is the same as Mao's time..........No matter i like it or not the change is happening
how long will the communist go? i don't know........! i am not a politican.i am just an ordinary person.......many thing i don't understand especially present chinese society as well as international affairs......but one thing is sure that china is developing and living standard of chinese is rising(for example when i was a child i had to make a big decision to bay a ice lolly of 10 cents but when i am typing this post i feel i need to eat some thing so i take out a delicious icecream from fridge and i can eat as many icecreams as i want .......... I scarcely dare think of it if it is 20 years ago .)
but at the same time society is not so stable as b4 eg prostitutes ,corruption and unfair social distribution and so on.........................my praents told me in Mao's time ppl were happy and felt safe despite of poverty
Maybe one night when i get awake from my dream my confusion is nowhere.................lol
_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[aleaf]

lost soul don't listen to the retarded one talk nonsense! i don't deny there is exceptional affairs just as you mentioned but it is not alllll...... just a loophole it is........besides china is making every effort to perfect justic system as well as other systems......
foreigners often pay more attentions to the bad things happening in china..... why don't they report some positive news about china?????? Hi! we do have good news every dayyyy!
we are really leading a so-so life not so bad.................i bet!

_________________
Try to change youself before you try to change others.

[aleaf]