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#32 (permalink) Thu May 10, 2007 15:09 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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"...they like washing dishes and working as baby sitters in the United States. An excellent man can lead a good life no matter where they are. If they have a miserable life in china, I believe they life in United States won't be much better. When you think we have no human rights in fact we have freedom to do almost anything."
Aleaf,
I basically agree with you. It's funny how people bitch about human rights abuse here in the US. If the NSA has listened to any of my calls, I haven't noticed. I'm sure my conversations with my mom are exciting stuff and that if they HAVE clicked on for a second or two, they're off the line faster than you can say "Jack Frost".
This goes back to the old saying: if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
I sure as hell don't want terrorists (or those who would be terrorists) to have the ability to make plans to blow me up. Find them and tap their phones, NSA... get 'er done! (hehe)
As long as they are honest and give good effort in going after bad guys -- and leave peaceful/law-abiding Americans alone -- I can live with the intrusion. To me it is better to live with slightly-infringed-upon liberties (and like I said, I have noticed no difference at all) than to die at the hands of a strap-on bomber in a mall.
If you are a (more or less) law-abiding person in the US, you're very likely going to have little to no trouble.
I think our media has sensationalized this. I know nobody who's been impacted by the things homeland security (and such departments/agencies) is doing to keep Americans as safe as possible.
And your first point: yes, pretty much. Successful people -- while this is not guaranteed --are likely to be successful elsewhere too, as much as countries' systems allow for success, anyway. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#33 (permalink) Thu May 10, 2007 15:20 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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By the way Jan , do you have to use the phrase "run away"? if you use "emigrate" it is more acceptable to we chinese. _________________ Try to change youself before you try to change others. |
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#34 (permalink) Thu May 10, 2007 19:53 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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Aleaf, I try to provoke as good as I can. The difference between us is quite clear I deeply "hate" almost all communists (specially young well bread sons of prominent officials), because I have my own deal with them and you deeply believe in their ideas, because You are probably still ahead of some experiences. We are most probably "just like brothers" but political far away. It is nothing wrong with this. I would "emigrate" to China because some companies are recruiting to work in China and I could run away from Poland when people would vote communists to parliament once more. "To run away"is here by purpose, I believe that Chinese are really very good or much more better now than before and let's hope in future stays like this. USA is becoming unfortunately more and more "communistic "
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#35 (permalink) Thu May 10, 2007 20:29 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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not economically, Jan
Our socialist tendencies are at their greatest (generally) under Democrat presidents -- FDR (more or less introduced socialism to the US), Clinton, etc. Socialism is the economic model for Communism.
Though Clinton was, in a weird way, an economic moderate... our tax rates were the highest they'd been since FDR. The Internet and tech stocks brought the economic boom... i wonder what they might have been with even more money in play. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#37 (permalink) Thu May 10, 2007 22:21 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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The US has a mixed economy that leans (fairly heavily) toward capitalism/free enterprise/laissez-faire
China leans more toward socialism than the US does -- China has just fairly recently begun to build free-enterprise attributes into their economy, and look what it's done for them. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#38 (permalink) Thu May 10, 2007 22:22 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
| If you are a (more or less) law-abiding person in the US, you're very likely going to have little to no trouble. |
+1
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| I think our media has sensationalized this. I know nobody who's been impacted by the things homeland security (and such departments/agencies) is doing to keep Americans as safe as possible. |
Pleasure to be the first one! In fact my student visa is being delayed because of some kind security check that takes more than 2 month already... But on the other hand I don't mind such a check if, eventually, it makes life safer in the country. If they do indeed fight off domestic and not only "foreign" threats - that's great, and i agree to wait as long as necessary.
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| Oh, democracy is alive and well in the US. My apartment is not, however, under the jurisdiction of the United States. It is part of the Holy Totalitarian Dictatorship of Tom the Terrible. |
Hmmm, could you please let me know the steps necessary to obtain a visa to this Holy Totalitarian Republic? If you don't mind, i will consider this as an option of entering the continent, with a consequent request for the political asylum from US government. agreed? (if other ways fail to work out, of course...) _________________ my game is fair play |
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#40 (permalink) Fri May 11, 2007 19:56 pm Have you ever been to the US? |
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aereal
The key is to get INTO the States. hehe
As for using the Holy Totalitarian Dictatorship of Tom the Terrible as your port of entry into North America, well sure.
But seriously, about that visa... that sounds pretty sucky. Hang tight though, they're probably just really backed up (the line in the queue is pretty long).
You should have seen what it was like in airports soon after 9/11. Man. But people generally were willing to go through the extra scrutiny, to be safe. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#41 (permalink) Sat May 19, 2007 5:32 am Have you ever been to the US? |
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Hi Tom,
Since we are in the US topic, could you tell me something about ‘host families’ (in the US)--what do they benefit from receiving the students arriving from different parts of the world. I know through hearsay they are free from paying taxes for the period the students are staying with them. Is that true? For the time being I failed to get a line on this issue. I am all agog to know your comments.  |
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