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past simple v.s. future simple #1 (permalink) Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:54 am   past simple v.s. future simple
 

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I think the time has now come when we'll simply have to call it a day.


Hi,

I'm a bit confused with the tense which has been chosen in the fragment in bold. Shouldnt it be we simply had , (i.e. shouldnt we use the past simple).
Because in this kind of sentence: It's time we had to call it a day I was taught that it is nessesary that one use the past simple

Any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks.
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past simple v.s. future simple #2 (permalink) Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:37 am   past simple v.s. future simple
 

I think you are mixing up three different expressions, LS:

1. The time has come + clause (or: The time has come (for something/someone) to + inf.)

2. It's time we + subjunctive

3. (We) have to + inf

Your last example should therefore read:

It's time we called it a day or
We have to call it a day, but not It's time we had to....

I hope I managed to shed some light.
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