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#3 (permalink) Thu Aug 06, 2009 20:18 pm Spectators vs Audience |
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Just a few minutes ago while I was taking one of the grammar tests, I encounter these two objectives "Spectators or Audience". Although, I chose Audience, which was correct, I need to know the difference between them. Can someone please help explain?
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#4 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:05 am Spectators vs Audience |
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Spectator is some one who watching a game Audience is a group of people to come to watch and listen to someone speaking or performing in puplic |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 15:28 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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Thank you very much for the clarification. Now I got it! So, to use both in a sentence, I can say "Don't be a spectator--be a part of the audience and have fun?" Please advise - thank you. Joycelyn |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 15:31 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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| Another question, please. Spectator is One. How about "spectators". Would that be two or more people watching a game? |
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#7 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 16:54 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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I feel "spectators" is related to more oberservation or watching where "Audiance" is related to drema or movie or music where audio or voice or volume is important.
What do think about "Observer" ? |
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#8 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 17:34 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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jbaddoo spectators can be plural so people who go to watch a football game or basketball are called spectators while when people go to cinema or to an operah concert are called audiance |
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#9 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 17:39 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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Icykhool, Observer is the one who regularly watches or pay attention to particular things,events: An observer of nature |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 18:12 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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| I am fairly certain that "audience" is a singular noun. Shouldn't it be "the audience was" instead of "were"? |
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#11 (permalink) Fri Aug 07, 2009 19:24 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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My post is to address collective nouns in American English. I am almost certain they are treated a bit differently in British English.
Although it is acceptible to use either a plural or a singular verb with a collective noun, most speakers of American English will determine which to use by deciding if the collective noun is acting together as a group, or acting as individuals within the group.
I learned these two sentences a long time ago (I won't say how long!) and still remember them.
Today the class goes on a fieldtrip. On Saturdays the class do their homework.
In the first sentence, the class is acting as a group. In the second sentence, the members of the class are acting individualy.
Regarding this sentence: "The audience were so carried away with the acting that at the end of the play they all stood up and applauded."
It seems to me that the the audience is sharing an experience together as a group. My choice in the test posted at the beginning of this thread would have been "spectators".
I don't think that in conversational English one would ever hear, "the audience were so carried..." |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:26 am Audience vs. spectator |
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| Indeed. Torsten, I think this question's answer needs to be altered--"audience" takes "was," not "were". |
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#13 (permalink) Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:48 am Audience vs. spectator |
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Hi,
I see we're falling back into this unproductive American English/British English wrangle, which can't be helpful to anyone learning English and isn't relevant here. By saying 'the audience were', you are regarding this as a description of a large number of people standing up and applauding. The sentence concludes with the words 'they all stood up and applauded' and clearly you wouldn't say 'it all stood up and applauded'. 'Spectators' doesn't really fit either because the people are in the theatre. I accept of course there are differences between the varieties of English throughout the world but this isn't an example of that, it's a question of interpretation.
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#14 (permalink) Fri Aug 14, 2009 19:32 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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Hello Alan
Nevertheless, this test presents a real situation for which there is a difference between AmE and BE. It would be completely normal and correct to say something such as "the audience was on its feet" in American English.
Here is a real usage example for you -- one which is not much different from your test:
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| But what I mean is I couldn't tell if the audience was going to go along with it. And they just loved it. |
ESL students are bound to run into these sorts of little discrepancies in usage on a fairly regular basis, and questions are bound to arise because of it. It really makes no sense at all to proclaim that any mention of a difference between AmE and BE is unproductive.
I do agree, however, that in comparison to the similarities between AmE and BE, the differences are very few and far between. And I would agree that this fact should be stressed. ___________________________ “Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.” ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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#15 (permalink) Fri Aug 14, 2009 20:11 pm Audience vs. spectator |
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Hi,
Of course you can say 'was' in that sentence and of course you can say 'were' in that sentence when you are referring to 'audience' but to suggest this is due to the differences between your English and my English is unproductive and totally irrelevant. Quoting from your newspaper really doesn't prove a thing. No doubt you could scour a few more papers and find 'were' and I could scour a few papers and find 'was'. I see you're back to your old habit of generalising on what I said. I was referring to one particular example and not 'proclaiming any mention ....'
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