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#2 (permalink) Sun May 27, 2007 10:30 am failed by a narrow margin? |
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. 'Fail by' is not an idiom, but a use of the preposition 'by' + amount/magnitude/etc' (= to the extent of):
PREPOSITION: (definition #6b) To the extent of: 'shorter by two inches'.
He failed the exam by 20 points. He won the race by two laps. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Sun May 27, 2007 18:21 pm failed by a narrow margin? |
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Hi,Mister Micawber
First of all,thanks for your quick response. I definitely have learned it you said. But here I have more two questions.
1. PREPOSITION: (definition #6b) What do you mean here? Are you telling me that I could find out more in this forum? If yes,would you please give me the link ?
2.To the extent of: 'shorter by two inches'. What do you mean here? Is it just an example? I don't make sense what does 'shorter by tow inches' mean?
3. How come I couldn't find out 'failed by' from the search engine,google? Few people speak English in this way?
Thanks for any helps.
Talk with you soon.
Maggie^^ _________________ In my view,the more mistakes someone else corrects me,the more I could learn.
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#4 (permalink) Sun May 27, 2007 18:40 pm failed by a narrow margin? |
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Hi Maggie
Since Mr M doesn't seem to be online at the moment, I'll try to help:
MM was referring to definition 6b for the word 'by' in the American Heritage Dictionary. Click on this link: http://www.bartleby.com/61/93/B0589300.html
Here is another definition (from the Cambridge Dictionary): http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=10617&dict=CALD
"Shorter by two inches" means basically the same thing as "two inches shorter than". "He won the race by two laps" means basically the same thing as "The amount/extent of his win was two laps" or "He was two laps faster than the person who placed second in the race." |
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#5 (permalink) Sun May 27, 2007 22:50 pm failed by a narrow margin? |
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. I get 975,000 English pages for "failed by" from Ms Google. Some examples:
Amendment on Flag Burning Fails by One Vote in Senate - New York Times The bid to extend federal jobless benefits for an extra 13 weeks failed by 59-40, one short of the 60 votes needed Failed by 20 pnts! BRIDGE; It Did Matter, Matter, Matter: The Contract Failed by Five
Because this is not an idiom, most of the 975,000 hits are for uses of a simple agent:
Milwaukee's taxpayers are failed by their own lawmakers . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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