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#2 (permalink) Tue May 29, 2007 23:52 pm elder vs older |
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. Elderly people like this area. The adjective 'elderly' applies in this situation. 'Elder' is primarily a comparative adjective for persons-- my elder brother; my eldest sister.
From the American Heritage Dictionary:
'Usage Note: The adjective 'elder' is not a synonym for 'elderly'. In comparisons between two persons, 'elder' means "older" but not necessarily "old": 'My elder sister is sixteen; my younger, twelve'. ('Eldest' is used when three or more persons are compared: 'He is the eldest of four brothers.') In other contexts, 'elder' does denote relatively advanced age but with the added component of respect for a person's achievement, as in 'an elder statesman'. If age alone is to be expressed, one should use 'older' or 'elderly' rather than 'elder': 'A survey of older Americans; an elderly waiter.' Unlike 'elder' and its related forms, the adjectives 'old', 'older', and 'oldest' are applied to things as well as to persons.' . _________________ Canadian-American native speaker who teaches English for a living at Mister Micawber's ESL cafe: Interview with Mr. Micawber |
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#3 (permalink) Wed May 30, 2007 4:13 am 'elder' vs 'older' |
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Old people refer to senior people who are old. But elder people are not necessarily old. He is my elder brother and he is 13/63 years old.(elder emphasises the sequence of the age.) I think some of the time older and elder are interchangeable. For example Jack is 10 years old and Marry is 12 years old. Marry is older/elder than Jack.
Am i right?
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#4 (permalink) Wed May 30, 2007 4:21 am 'elder' vs 'older' |
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| Quote: | | Marry is older/elder than Jack. |
'Elder' is seldom used as in this sentence by native speakers. . _________________ Canadian-American native speaker who teaches English for a living at Mister Micawber's ESL cafe: Interview with Mr. Micawber |
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#5 (permalink) Thu May 31, 2007 5:30 am 'elder' vs 'older' |
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"Elder" and "older", as comparatives, mean exactly the same thing.
Don't get it confused with "elderly", because that means "old".
Once a man from Europe made a hilarious mistake in front of me. He was very charmed and excited by a young woman he'd met, but he thought she might be a little too young for him. So he said to me, "I wonder if she has an elderly sister!" He meant an "older sister" or an "elder sister", but what he really said was that he wondered if she had a sister who was past retirement age. |
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