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Is Tibet part of China ?
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| #33 (permalink) Wed Jun 13, 2007 15:33 pm announcement |
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che:
surely Tibet is a part of China.
sorry even if the vast majority of tibetans want Tibet to be independent, chinese(including me and average chinese) will not allow it happen. In this point no compromising. i admit in this point i am narrow-minded.If one day tibet becomes indepent many chinese will feel sad.Just like cut a flesh form my body and just like a mom lost one son.
But the fact is average Tibetans don't wanna be independent.
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| #34 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:04 am Reannouncement |
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| aleaf wrote: |
Rosalisa:
We chinese has been regarding Tibet as an undivisible part. We treat every minority as our siblings.Those minorities make our culture colorful and attractive. As far as i am concerned, i feel proud of Tibet. And if you ask Tibetans(not including those abroad), they will say Tibetan and Han and other minorities are brothers.
Why should we allow Tibet independant? We chinese won't accept it. just like a family , all siblings will live together forever.
Do you think any a nationaity should be an independant country in the world?
scotland Quebec chechen ........ do you think all of these places be independant? |
Just for my curiostiy, Aleaf, was Tibet a part of China a thousand years ago? I am trying to get to know more about that.
And one more thing, why shouldn't China allow Tibet independent? Why won't Chinese accpet that?
I think all the siblings of one family can't live together forever because each has their own personal life and will have their family later on. I believe we Asians have a tendency toward living in groups while the others toward "individualism". However, Aleaf, as a sibling, I want my own independent life but I will always be part of my family. Always will be. 
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| #35 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:06 am announcement |
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What do you think? 
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| #36 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:39 am announcement |
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was Tibet a part of China a thousand years ago?
nope. but I don't think time can decide a place should be a part of county or not. a thousand years ago many countries didn't exist at all. Tibet has been a part of china officially since Yuan Dynasty. but before thet we have close communication dating back to Tang Dynasty.Princess Wencheng (a princess of Tang) is the most beloved queen in Tibetan history.A beautiful and intelligent woman, she brought the Tibetans many of the scientific and agricultural advances of the Tang dynasty and is also credited with the introduction of Buddhism into the region.and so on.
so on Chinese sentiments and culture aspect , we won't accept it.
On political aspect considering the security of china , chinese government won't allow Tibe to be independent. suppose if Tibet is indepentent, which country do you think Tibet asks for the help from millitary supports?India or china?
The most unfortunate case is Tibet chances to be a part of socialism society which is the very social system nowdays is not popular. Many people won't believe Tibetan people are leading a much better life than they were leading when they were under the control of Dalai Lama.
I think most countries don't have any ground to deny that Tibet is a part of china.
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| #37 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:47 am announcement |
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My Country was a part of Soviet Union,against Our will,but finally We're free and independt..
I'm interested ,why almost every big Country tries to absorb little ones...
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| #38 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:41 am announcement |
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The situation of your country is different from that of Tibet.The two cannot be mentioned in the same breath.
BTW even if the Soviet Union had provided you much better life than before, wouldn't you have accepted to be apart of it?
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| #39 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:04 am announcement |
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How life can be better without freedom ?
Even if their life will be better ,they have to decide, whether they want to be part of China or not .. don't you think so ?
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| #40 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:20 am announcement |
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you are right. I agree.
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| #41 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:22 am announcement |
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there are so many chinese treasures displayed in foreign museumes. why they don't reture it to china?
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| #42 (permalink) Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:24 am announcement |
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I heard that the situation in scotland was not so good.
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| #43 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:02 am announcement |
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| aleaf wrote: |
was Tibet a part of China a thousand years ago?
nope. but I don't think time can decide a place should be a part of county or not. a thousand years ago many countries didn't exist at all. Tibet has been a part of china officially since Yuan Dynasty. but before thet we have close communication dating back to Tang Dynasty.Princess Wencheng (a princess of Tang) is the most beloved queen in Tibetan history.A beautiful and intelligent woman, she brought the Tibetans many of the scientific and agricultural advances of the Tang dynasty and is also credited with the introduction of Buddhism into the region.and so on.
so on Chinese sentiments and culture aspect , we won't accept it.
On political aspect considering the security of china , chinese government won't allow Tibet to be independent. suppose if Tibet is indepentent, which country do you think Tibet asks for the help from millitary supports?India or china?
The most unfortunate case is Tibet chances to be a part of socialism society which is the very social system nowdays is not popular. Many people won't believe Tibetan people are leading a much better life than they were leading when they were under the control of Dalai Lama.
I think most countries don't have any ground to deny that Tibet is a part of china. |
Thanks, Aleaf, for explaining these to me. But why do think Tibet will ask for a military help? For what? I find that Tibet is a peaceful and religious place for Buddhism.
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| #44 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 15:54 pm announcement |
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'cause Tibet will think china as a treat to them at that time.
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| 'cause Tibet will think china as a treat to them at that time |
Who is the most powerful person in Tibet? And why will they think China as a threat to them?
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