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#47 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 14:38 pm The Political Compass |
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i was under the impression that socialism is the economic model of communism _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#48 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 14:59 pm The Political Compass |
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#49 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 16:36 pm The Political Compass |
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Excellent!
Hey, have you started a country over at NationStates?
Am I bugging you?
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#51 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 19:31 pm The Political Compass |
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I felt like I'd been lazy recently. I figured it was time to contribute. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#52 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 19:56 pm The Political Compass |
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| Torsten wrote: |
| How many people in Germany are sleeping under a bridge eating garbage? |
Hi Torsten! Sorry I haven?t checked them nonetheless I?m sure there are some/many who do either the one or the other or both.
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| And what is so bad about living on Hartz IV? |
If you think living on Hartz IV isn?t worse who do you think has a more worse life and what could we do to prepare a better life for those? |
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#53 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 21:04 pm The Political Compass |
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Hi Michael,
Anyone living on welfare in Germany is far better off than half of the world population. As for your question, we could also ask "What can somebody who lives on welfare do to change their life"? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#54 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 22:01 pm The Political Compass |
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Jamie and I (at least the two of us) can supply the standard answer. hehe _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#55 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 22:29 pm The Political Compass |
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| Torsten wrote: |
| Anyone living on welfare in Germany is far better off than half of the world population. |
Just look across your borders to the east. One time in the Czech Republic I was watching a documentary on German TV about the "sad" situation of German single mothers on welfare. It was supposed to tear at viewers' hearts. At one point they showed the apartment one of the women was given by the German government. In a sad voice, the announcer said, "The furniture is not new." Immediately, the Czech women in the room with me started screaming, "GIVE THAT APARTMENT TO ME!" They thought these German welfare mothers were living in outrageous luxury. |
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#56 (permalink) Fri Jun 15, 2007 23:53 pm The Political Compass |
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| Torsten wrote: |
| Anyone living on welfare in Germany is far better off than half of the world population. |
Hi Torsten!
I think, I must agree with that statement despite I?d rather not rely on welfare, not even in Germany.
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| As for your question, we could also ask "What can somebody who lives on welfare do to change their life"? |
Oh, this might be a missunderstanding. Asking what we might do to prepare a better life for them I didn?t mean German Hartz IV recipients. Many of them certainly might help themselves particularly presently while the German economy is increasing ( if we can trust in the news we get on TV and in newspapers). For so more I was talking about the other half of earth? population. |
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#57 (permalink) Sat Jun 16, 2007 0:04 am The Political Compass |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
| Jamie and I (at least the two of us) can supply the standard answer. hehe |
Sorry Tom, I dread I must destroy an illusion of you. I think, particular at this site there are some other members who also are able to find a back door.
Being eager to read your solution
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#58 (permalink) Sat Jun 16, 2007 20:26 pm The Political Compass |
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a solution to laziness?
hehe
we have to be able to differentiate between those who are truly unable to work and those who simply don't feel like it.
there are rich people who don't work... but they have means to support themselves. they don't rely on sustenance from others.
for those who aren't wealthy (simply read: those who must work to eat, keep shelter, etc.) but who are physically and mentally able, i think we should expect them to work. People should not have a right to live off the work of others, unless they are mentally and/or physically unable to work. If a person can't find a job, then the government should make the economy more attractive to entrepreneurs (the creators of jobs) -- i think it's up to governments to stoke the business environment. How do they do that? Keeping regulations and taxes modest is a start).
Also, of course, if you're fired through no fault of your own, probably a few months of assistance would be okay as you find another job.
If jobs are available and the person does not want to work those jobs... i'm sorry, but if you could be working but are not, and you want other taxpayers' money to support you, tough nuts. That pisses me off slightly.
I'm not working in my dream job. But I'm not going to be so picky that I take welfare, thereby imposing on taxpaying Americans who don't know me. Therefore, I work this job. It pays bills, and allows me to "splurge" on some of the things I want (though not nearly all of the things I want).
I started fairly low in this organization and have worked my tail off for the past two years, in which time (through performance rewards and strong evaluation scores) I've had roughly a 15% raise.
It is imperative that we teach this generation (while they're still young enough to absorb the lesson) the values of personal responsibility, perseverance, working hard to attain goals, and respect for others' property.
Whenever someone else owns the company for which you work, you do not control your job. That sucks. But at the same time, ownership of a company MUST have perks, or nobody would buy stock (why risk your money if you have no say in how it is run?), and corporations would be screwed... in which case NOBODY but entrepreneurs (small-time business owners especially) would have jobs.
Really the only way to guarantee job security is to own your own business -- to employ yourself.
And that security is tenuous at best, since your job relies on your ability to keep your business alive. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#59 (permalink) Sat Jun 16, 2007 21:27 pm The Political Compass |
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Hi prezbucky,
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| Also, of course, if you're fired through no fault of your own, probably a few months of assistance would be okay as you find another job. |
I don't think your employer should have the right to dismiss you just like that. In my opinion, you should be notified about your dismissal at least two to four weeks in advance. Am I asking for too much here? In such a time frame the employee could look for and possibly find a new job.
Obviously, your employer should retain the right to dismiss you instantly if you break your contract. Also, if you are a newly recruited employee, your employer should be allowed to fire you if it turns out you are clearly unsuitable for your new position.
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#60 (permalink) Sat Jun 16, 2007 21:31 pm The Political Compass |
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That's a good idea. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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