Some tips on punctuation from Mister Micawber

[Englishuser]

Hi Alan,

[Alan]

Hi EU,

Clipped speech is not a variety or an accent, it's a method of delivery. I do not clip my words.

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[Englishuser]

Hi Alan,

Do you mean that HM The Queen's accent sounds exactly like yours, phonemically, and that the only difference between the two is that Her Majesty's speech sounds "clipped"?

All the best

EU

[Englishuser]

Hi,

For those of you who might be interested (I am thinking of you, Bruce):

http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-only/received-pronunciation/newport/ (Standard RP)

http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-only/received-pronunciation/burnham-thorpe/ (Conservative RP or U-RP)

All the best

EU

[Alan]

Hi EU,

I feel you are barking up the wrong tree. We both speak the same language but if the good lady refuses to open her mouth fully when she speaks and when she does, adds a strong dose of nasality, it's very difficult to talk about her 'accent'. I would rather describe it as contorted speech.

Alan
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[Englishuser]

Hi Alan,

May I suggest an article written by Professor John C. Wells. It is available at http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/rphappened.htm . Do you have anything to add to what he has written?

I have posted two links, one featuring modern RP, another featuring conservative RP. Do you think that the conservative RP speaker sounds clipped and affected?

All the best

EU

[Alan]

Hi,

You delight in going off beam and not sticking to the point. I have heard John Wells many times on the BBC and I know he talks total sense. The point I was talking about and I thought you were too, is that the speech uttered by the queen is to me clipped and unnatural and therefore you can't talk about accents in her case.

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[Englishuser]

Hi Alan,

[Alan]

Hi,

Nasal contortions, clipped speech, closed mouth speech, speech through the teeth, stiff upper lip speech are best kept in a metal box and buried a hundred leagues under the sea. Live a life outside the metal box.

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[Mister Micawber]

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"Churchill described himself as having a 'speech impediment', which he consistently worked to overcome; after many years, he finally stated, "My impediment is no hindrance". Although the Stuttering Foundation has claimed that Churchill stuttered, the Churchill Centre has concluded that he lisped. Churchill's impediment may also have been cluttering, which would fit more with his inattention to unimportant details and his very secure ego. Weiss suggests that Churchill may have 'excelled because of, rather than in spite of his cluttering.'"

(Wikipedia... if it has not been spammed.)

...Dear me! There is a page 2 to this thread. Pity the poor 'Punctuation by Mister Micawber' thread hijacked by pronunciationists!
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[Englishuser]

Hi Alan,

[Alan]

Hi,

[Englishuser]

Hi Alan,

We are talking about your personal preferences here. And I think you just admitted that we are indeed discussing a very specific accent.

All the best

EU

[Yankee]

[Englishuser]

Hi,

I think you can learn quite a lot about the culture of a nation without being born there.

All the best

EU