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Errors in the tests #241 (permalink) Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:11 am   Errors in the tests
 

Yankee wrote:
Yankee wrote:
A word has apparently been accidentally omitted in question 3 of this test:
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ii275/esl-test.php

I would suggest adding the word 'last':

And now at last it was a reality and her dream was about to be ..........
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Alan wrote:
Thanks for that.
You're welcome. There has been no change, though. Did you disagree with my suggestion?
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Hi Amy,

We have added the word 'last' as you suggested and the change will go online with the next update.

Many thanks
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Errors in the tests #242 (permalink) Sat Mar 29, 2008 23:35 pm   Errors in the tests
 

As you requested, I have now reposted three of my last comments directly in the tests forum. (I hope you don't need the urls posted here again.)

In addition, the questions raised in the following thread have already been posted in both places:
expressions: 'to stand in a queue' vs. 'stand in line' vs. 'stand in a line'
As far as I can tell, this one has basically been ignored. I don't think the test should be left as it is. Alan has plenty of information about American usage now and should be able to reformulate the sentence.
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Errors in the tests #243 (permalink) Sun Mar 30, 2008 15:20 pm   Errors in the tests
 

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic23454.html#77944
I have posted my editing suggestions for question 7 of this test directly in the English Teacher Explanations forum.
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Errors in the tests #244 (permalink) Mon Mar 31, 2008 15:08 pm   Errors in the tests
 

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic23116.html#78086
My suggestion for repairing this test sentence was to change the distracter 'brain' to some other word.

As the test stands, two of the possible four choices could be and are used (head and brain) in such a context.
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Errors in the tests #245 (permalink) Mon Mar 31, 2008 15:34 pm   Errors in the tests
 

Hi Amy,

Thanks a lot for notifying us of your findings. I'll discuss your suggestions with Alan as soon as he comes back online and we'll make the changes where appropriate.
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Errors in the tests #246 (permalink) Mon Mar 31, 2008 17:39 pm   Errors in the tests
 

Hi Torsten

If any of my suggestions are rejected, I hope there will at least be feedback as to why. I'm also looking forward to some sincere discussion about the way the tests are reviewed and edited prior to posting, etc. Wink

By the way, the questions that are going on now in the "head vs brain" thread illustrate one of the reasons I think there ought to be a way to discuss at least a few things "behind the scenes" (in a "moderator forum", for example). It's confusing when Alan parses the words "out of my head" together and then calls it "the accepted expression". That's because those words CAN be used as a fixed expression, but they are NOT a fixed expression in the context of the sentence!

Personally, I think Alan might not have been paying close attention to the rest of the sentence when he posted his response. Maybe he was just in a hurry. Maybe there really is some fixed expression (other than the one I know) that is used in the UK but not used here. However, I haven't been able to find a fixed expression (other than the one I know) in any dictionaries. Whatever the reason for Alan's post, the meaning of the fixed expression that I know doesn't fit the context of the test sentence.

So, as I see it, the fact of the matter is the words "out of my head" are not used as a fixed expression in sentence. And the fact of the matter is that I have heard plenty of native speakers use the word 'brain' in exactly the same sort of sentence as the test sentence. Therefore, I see my suggestion to change the word 'brain' to something that is really impossible as an easy solution.

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Errors in the tests #247 (permalink) Wed Apr 02, 2008 18:56 pm   Errors in the tests
 

A good example of why I 'harp' on fixing the tests can be found here:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic23510.html#78522
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Errors in the tests #248 (permalink) Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:13 am   Errors in the tests
 

Torsten wrote:
Hi Amy,

I take it you are referring to the difference between 'stand in line' and 'stand in a line'? For some reason the URL you have quoted is pointing to the forum index page. We can change it to the discussion you have in mind. Just let me know and I'll respond to the suggestions you have made above.

Many thanks,
Torsten
I'm still looking forward to a response and a discussion. Wink

Torsten wrote:
we'll make the changes where appropriate.

Does that mean you will post a list of tests (if any) that will not be changed -- along with the reason(s)?
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Errors in the tests #249 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:07 am   Errors in the tests
 

Hi Torsten

Alan wrote:
This is an open site and the idea that comments have to be vetted before they are allowed to appear, to use that awful but here useful phrase, in the public domain is not in the spirit, as I see it, of the site.

Alan posted the above quote in another thread.

You've also told me that you're against a so-called 'moderator forum' because you want "keep the entire process transparent and democratic".

Tosten wrote:
I'll discuss your suggestions with Alan as soon as he comes back online and we'll make the changes where appropriate.

Did you mean that you and Alan will discuss these publically posted suggestions privately? That's certainly how it sounds. Shocked

What happened to your professed desire for complete transparency and openness?
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Errors in the tests #250 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:51 am   Errors in the tests
 

Torsten wrote:
Hi Amy,

Thanks a lot for notifying us of your findings. I'll discuss your suggestions with Alan as soon as he comes back online and we'll make the changes where appropriate.
Regards,
Torsten

There still have been no corrections or changes made in any of the following:

line vs queue:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic2420.html

fitting room/dressing room vs cubicle:
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ar008/esl-test.php#two

proctor vs invigliator:
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ar008/esl-test.php#nine

comma still missing (to separate the non-defining clause):
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ai089/esl-test.php#seven

And this was posted in the forum earlier today:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic23674.html#79026
You need to change 'some time' to 'sometime' (i.e. one word). I believe even a certain Brit will agree with that.
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Errors in the tests #251 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:11 am   Errors in the tests
 

This one needs tweaking, too:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic23673.html
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Errors in the tests #252 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:39 am   Errors in the tests
 

Yes, we're fixing that typo right now.
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Errors in the tests #253 (permalink) Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:01 pm   Errors in the tests
 

Thanks for the feedback, Linda.
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Errors in the tests #254 (permalink) Tue Apr 08, 2008 18:07 pm   Errors in the tests
 

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There still have been no corrections or changes made in any of the following:

line vs queue:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic2420.html

fitting room/dressing room vs cubicle:
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ar008/esl-test.php#two

proctor vs invigliator:
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ar008/esl-test.php#nine

comma still missing (to separate the non-defining clause):
http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ai089/esl-test.php#seven

And this was posted in the forum earlier today:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic23674.html#79026
You need to change 'some time' to 'sometime' (i.e. one word).


I just wanted to bump this post up somehow. Have the hidden discussions been completed? Have they even begun?
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Errors in the tests #255 (permalink) Wed Apr 09, 2008 19:05 pm   Errors in the tests
 

Torsten wrote:
Just let me know and I'll respond to the suggestions you have made above.

Many thanks,
Torsten
Still looking for that response...
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