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errors in the tests #31 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:52 am   errors in the tests
 

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Question mark missing-- HERE.
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errors in the tests #32 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 13:21 pm   errors in the tests
 

Hi,

I left out the question mark to indicate that it is a request/invitation/instruction assuming the driver will move the car and it is not open for negotiation.

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errors in the tests #33 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 13:33 pm   errors in the tests
 

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Very creative, Alan, but I don't think you have that option-- it is still a question by structure if not by pragmatics.
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errors in the tests #34 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 14:05 pm   errors in the tests
 

It's not a matter of being creative, Charles but merely an indication that this isn't a question and therefore doesn't require a question mark. If you say to someone: Will you close the door. You are not expecting a reply but compliance.

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errors in the tests #35 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 14:25 pm   errors in the tests
 

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Well. how about an exclamation point then-- something to make it look less odd from the western side of the Atlantic?
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errors in the tests #36 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 14:51 pm   errors in the tests
 

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Though some may find this hard to believe, I'd agree with Alan on this one.
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errors in the tests #37 (permalink) Sat Aug 18, 2007 0:09 am   errors in the tests
 

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Will you close the door.

Does this look odd to no one but me?

OK-- you win a lose, you few a few.
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errors in the tests #38 (permalink) Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:09 am   errors in the tests
 

Hi

Very interesting discussion indeed! But please don't leave it unfinished because my posts almost always start like this:

Quote:
Could you please explain the following to me?


For example:

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic19287.html

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic19497.html

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errors in the tests #39 (permalink) Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:12 pm   errors in the tests
 

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Will you close the door.

Does this look odd to no one but me?

Hi MM
Yes, that one does look odd to me. :lol:
For that one, I'd definitely use a question mark -- or possibly an exclamation point if I wanted to indicate a loud, impatient voice.

As I see it, in a longer, more complicated sentence which serves as a polite demand (especially one that is an announcement made over a PA system as the test sentence apparently was), the period/full stop is appropriate even though the word order is interrogative. The sentence isn't really a question -- the interrogative word order serves only to make the demand politer.

To be honest, though, using a question mark in the test sentence wouldn't have seemed completely wrong to me either. I just think the period is more appropriate in this particular case.
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errors in the tests #40 (permalink) Sun Aug 19, 2007 17:43 pm   errors in the tests
 

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I'd be interested in hearing what others think of this test sentence and what changes would be appropriate:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic3163.html#63413

(Incomplete/advanced-5 "Learning tips and instructions", question 5 )
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errors in the tests #41 (permalink) Sun Aug 19, 2007 23:58 pm   errors in the tests
 

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My effort:

You should read not only novels but also newspapers, so that you can see examples of ......... language.

(a) idiomatic
(b) automatic
(c) axiomatic
(d) symptomatic
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errors in the tests #42 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:51 am   errors in the tests
 

Hi Charles,

Thanks for your suggestion, we'll make that change. As for 'examples', we corrected this a long time ago in test itself. The original version stays on the forum though.

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errors in the tests #43 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:54 am   errors in the tests
 

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The original version stays on the forum though.

Aargh! What does that mean, exactly? And how universal is it?-- are we liable to be continually seeing long-corrected typos?
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errors in the tests #44 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:57 am   errors in the tests
 

Users take the test on the site, not on the forum so in order to see whether or not a typo has been corrected simply click on the appropriate link.

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errors in the tests #45 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:50 am   errors in the tests
 

Mister Micawber wrote:
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My effort:

You should read not only novels but also newspapers, so that you can see examples of ......... language.

(a) idiomatic
(b) automatic
(c) axiomatic
(d) symptomatic
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Hi Charles
I had the same thought about changing 'don't have to' to 'should' and like your suggested change for option (d).
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