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errors in the tests Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:52 am  errors in the tests
 

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Question mark missing-- HERE.
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errors in the tests Fri Aug 17, 2007 14:21 pm  errors in the tests
 

Hi,

I left out the question mark to indicate that it is a request/invitation/instruction assuming the driver will move the car and it is not open for negotiation.

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errors in the tests Fri Aug 17, 2007 14:33 pm  errors in the tests
 

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Very creative, Alan, but I don't think you have that option-- it is still a question by structure if not by pragmatics.
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errors in the tests Fri Aug 17, 2007 15:05 pm  errors in the tests
 

It's not a matter of being creative, Charles but merely an indication that this isn't a question and therefore doesn't require a question mark. If you say to someone: Will you close the door. You are not expecting a reply but compliance.

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errors in the tests Fri Aug 17, 2007 15:25 pm  errors in the tests
 

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Well. how about an exclamation point then-- something to make it look less odd from the western side of the Atlantic?
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errors in the tests Fri Aug 17, 2007 15:51 pm  errors in the tests
 

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Though some may find this hard to believe, I'd agree with Alan on this one.
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errors in the tests Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:09 am  errors in the tests
 

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Will you close the door.

Does this look odd to no one but me?

OK-- you win a lose, you few a few.
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errors in the tests Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:09 am  errors in the tests
 

Hi

Very interesting discussion indeed! But please don't leave it unfinished because my posts almost always start like this:

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Could you please explain the following to me?

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http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic19287.html

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic19497.html

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errors in the tests Sat Aug 18, 2007 13:12 pm  errors in the tests
 

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Will you close the door.

Does this look odd to no one but me?

Hi MM
Yes, that one does look odd to me. Laughing
For that one, I'd definitely use a question mark -- or possibly an exclamation point if I wanted to indicate a loud, impatient voice.

As I see it, in a longer, more complicated sentence which serves as a polite demand (especially one that is an announcement made over a PA system as the test sentence apparently was), the period/full stop is appropriate even though the word order is interrogative. The sentence isn't really a question -- the interrogative word order serves only to make the demand politer.

To be honest, though, using a question mark in the test sentence wouldn't have seemed completely wrong to me either. I just think the period is more appropriate in this particular case.
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errors in the tests Sun Aug 19, 2007 18:43 pm  errors in the tests
 

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I'd be interested in hearing what others think of this test sentence and what changes would be appropriate:
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic3163.html#63413

(Incomplete/advanced-5 "Learning tips and instructions", question 5 )
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errors in the tests Mon Aug 20, 2007 0:58 am  errors in the tests
 

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My effort:

You should read not only novels but also newspapers, so that you can see examples of ......... language.

(a) idiomatic
(b) automatic
(c) axiomatic
(d) symptomatic
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errors in the tests Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:51 am  errors in the tests
 

Hi Charles,

Thanks for your suggestion, we'll make that change. As for 'examples', we corrected this a long time ago in test itself. The original version stays on the forum though.
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errors in the tests Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:54 am  errors in the tests
 

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The original version stays on the forum though.

Aargh! What does that mean, exactly? And how universal is it?-- are we liable to be continually seeing long-corrected typos?
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errors in the tests Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:57 am  errors in the tests
 

Users take the test on the site, not on the forum so in order to see whether or not a typo has been corrected simply click on the appropriate link.
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errors in the tests Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:50 pm  errors in the tests
 

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My effort:

You should read not only novels but also newspapers, so that you can see examples of ......... language.

(a) idiomatic
(b) automatic
(c) axiomatic
(d) symptomatic
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Hi Charles
I had the same thought about changing 'don't have to' to 'should' and like your suggested change for option (d).
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