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Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:00 am Stupid/dumb |
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Stupid simply means not being intelligent as in: I was very stupid this morning because I forgot to lock the front door. Dumb means literally unable to speak but is often used in conversation to mean pretending not to know as in: She's acting/keeping dumb about the matter because she doesn't want anyone to know what she knows. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Cool Expressions |
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:21 am Difference between stupid and dumb |
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hello, my name is daniela and here's what i want to tell you : i solved the test with reckon and realize... (i chose reckon)when i checked my score i had 10 of 10, then i went to explanation but there it said "reckon" was incorrect.....so which one is true? yours, daniela |
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danielachirita New Member
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Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:17 am Difference between stupid and dumb |
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Hi,
what is the difference between manners and habits. when do we use these two words and why? Though I got this answer right but I am still confused. |
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Ralf Language Coach

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Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:59 am Difference between stupid and dumb |
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Hi Daniela,
The test is a bit ambiguous. Both 'reckon' and 'realise' are possible, but 'reckon' here is a colloquial way to say 'presume', and it not commonly used in this way everywhere.
Cheers,
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Ralf Language Coach

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Tue Aug 19, 2008 20:10 pm Stupid/dumb |
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| Alan wrote: | | Stupid simply means not being intelligent as in: I was very stupid this morning because I forgot to lock the front door. Dumb means literally unable to speak but is often used in conversation to mean pretending not to know as in: She's acting/keeping dumb about the matter because she doesn't want anyone to know what she knows. |
As was previously mentioned, but has now seemingly disappeared, the word 'dumb' is extremely common as a synonym for 'stupid' in American English. As the test sentence stands, the word 'dumb' cannot reasonably be ruled out as a correct answer. Thus, there should either be two correct responses, or the option for 'dumb' should be replaced by something that is actually incorrect.
Or is the intention here to ban information about American English? . _________________ Amy
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Tue Aug 19, 2008 20:18 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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The information has not disappeared -- I've just moved it here. _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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Torsten Site Admin

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Tue Aug 19, 2008 20:53 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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Here are some samples of American usage (taken from the COCA). They were easy to find. There are hundreds (maybe thousands) more in the corpus alone:
- Is that a dumb question? - I thought the people who supported Ronald Reagan were dumb. - This jury is an intelligent group. These are not dumb people. These are very intelligent people. - Surely as Tony himself says we wouldn't be dumb enough to do that. - I don't think that consumers are as dumb as flaky activists give them credit for being.
And don't forget the movie Dumb and Dumber! Sure, they act dumb in that movie, but that's because they are dumb. The movie is about two incredibly unintelligent/stupid guys. They are both unbelievably dumb! How could anyone who's seen that movie possibly believe that the words "dumb" and "dumber" in that title do not refer to lack of intelligence?!? . _________________ Amy
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Fri Aug 22, 2008 16:11 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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Hi Torsten
As you can see in the quote below, this test tells test-takers that a correct option is incorrect.
| English Grammar Test, Elementary Level #11 wrote: | Your answer was: incorrect your sentence: I expect you think I'm dumb because I don't understand that. |
Do you need someone to provide you with a specific way to repair this test?
If you are not planning to fix this test, would you mind explaining to me why not? (I suppose I'm just too dumb to understand why any English language expert might decide to leave this test the way it is.) . _________________ Amy
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Fri Aug 22, 2008 16:22 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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Hi, Torsten and Alan
I wholeheartedly second Amy's statement. It is misleading, I'm afraid. Maybe it might make sense to add incorrect in BrE or something like that.
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lost_soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Fri Aug 22, 2008 18:40 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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I don't think "dumb" could be described as "incorrect in BrE". Most people would know what it meant.
"Crazy" wouldn't be so strange, either.
Suggested options: "stupid", "torpid", "deaf", "dumbfounded".
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 22:32 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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. This test has not been corrected yet. Just a reminder. . _________________ Amy
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Sun Oct 12, 2008 16:41 pm Difference between stupid and dumb |
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| Thanks Mr Alan for the explanation concerning the difference between stupid and dumb. |
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