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#2 (permalink) Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:57 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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. It is optional. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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Mister Micawber Language Coach

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#3 (permalink) Mon Jul 23, 2007 13:22 pm infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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| if the object of the sentence is in the form of a verb, then you either use gerund (if its at the beginning of the sentence), or "to" plus the infinitive. |
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Sean Priestley New Member
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Lost_Soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Mon Jul 23, 2007 23:19 pm infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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. I notice that you edited your post too, after the fact, Sean. Yes, your website needs some editing. The first sentence of the first essay I looked at:
It is of no secret that each person is unique. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#7 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:51 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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hi all... @ yankee: good point, thanks, I will surely check the pages and revise them if I find mistakes... could you please tell me the pages you found typos on, couse there are over 400 pages.. .thanks
@micawber: some clients require poor english to blend with their writing, so some of the samples might be purposefully distorted, as if an esl student wrote them.. and as for the post editing, what I changed was I added the phrase in parentheses
do I know english? yes.. Am I a native speaker? no... I have been studying english for over 17 years now... I am not an english teacher ... however, I am in professional academic writing for over five years now.. does this fact mean I know something about english grammar? yes it do!!  |
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Sean Priestley New Member
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#8 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:25 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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| some clients require poor english to blend with their writing, so some of the samples might be purposefully distorted, as if an esl student wrote them |
You are beneath my contempt. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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Mister Micawber Language Coach

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#9 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:28 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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| Mister Micawber wrote: |
. I notice that you edited your post too, after the fact, Sean. Yes, your website needs some editing. The first sentence of the first essay I looked at:
It is of no secret that each person is unique. . |
Hi, Mister Micawber
What should it be then? It is not a secret that .... ? |
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Lost_Soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#10 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:16 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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Thanks, all. But Is it really optional? And actually I feel that if someone is a native Eng speaker doesn't matter at all, I'm now 15, I love language and I am now studying Spanish. The professor of mine told us what language really is, she said even though you speak terrible Eng or Spanish, just make yourself understood that's it. (I'm from Taiwan where Wang on Yankee comes from ^_^) |
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Edison_Chen_e_c I'm here quite often ;-)
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#11 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:23 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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| edison_chen_e_c wrote: |
Thanks, all. But Is it really optional? And actually I feel that if someone is a native Eng speaker doesn't matter at all, I'm now 15, I love language and I am now studying Spanish. The professor of mine told us what language really is, she said even though you speak terrible Eng or Spanish, just make yourself understood that's it. (I'm from Taiwan where Wang on Yankee comes from ^_^) |
Well, I disagree with you. If one claims they can speak English they are obliged to do so impeccably I want to be understood of course but I also dont want to be made fun of when I say something really weird to a native speaker of English. (It's funny for me to see Russian texts full of mistakes.) |
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Lost_Soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Edison_Chen_e_c I'm here quite often ;-)
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#13 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:38 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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Hi edison_chen_e_c,
Please do not misunderstand what has been said previously and never be embarrassed about making mistakes when you write or speak English - that's the only way you can learn. Certainly nobody on the site would want to laugh at you for trying to express yourself on the forums.
Good luck,
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story A day in the life of a student teacher |
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#14 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:56 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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Hi Sean Priestley,
I had a look at your site this morning and share the views of others on the site that the English you have used is strangely erratic but that is essentially your problem. What concerns me greatly is that you have used the forum to advertise your site that offers ready-made essays with built-in errors to students with, as I understand it, the inention to hoodwink their teachers into believing that it is original work. We on our site consider this totally alien to the spirit of english-test.net and would ask you to take your business elsewhere. If you persist in trying to exploit our forums, your posts will be deleted.
Alan _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story A day in the life of a driving instructor |
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#15 (permalink) Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:56 am infinitive with vs. without 'to' |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi edison_chen_e_c,
Please do not misunderstand what has been said previously and never be embarrassed about making mistakes when you write or speak English - that's the only way you can learn. Certainly nobody on the site would want to laugh at you for trying to express yourself on the forums.
Good luck,
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Yap, I know it's a process, I'll keep that in mind. |
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Edison_Chen_e_c I'm here quite often ;-)
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