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#2 (permalink) Sun Aug 05, 2007 13:42 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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. Why do you want to become an expert in speaking British English, lovelyjitu? . |
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#3 (permalink) Sun Aug 05, 2007 19:28 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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Hi,
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| Why do you want to become an expert in speaking British English, lovelyjitu? |
Isn't that quite obvious?
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#4 (permalink) Sun Aug 05, 2007 19:36 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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. I'm afraid it isn't, EU -- especially in view of the fact that less than 20 percent of the world's native speakers of English are from Britain. . |
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#5 (permalink) Sun Aug 05, 2007 20:30 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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Hi,
I am intrigued, Amy, why you ask:
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Why do you want to become an expert in speaking British English, lovelyjitu? . |
Given that there are some 400-500 million speakers of English and that it comes 3rd or 4th in the world's top ten languages of whom a certain percentage come from the UK and that they speak so-called British English and there are I presume a number of speakers speaking British English who do not come from the UK, I don't see why Lovelyjitu's reason for wanting to speak the British brand has to be questioned and nor do I believe the choice is obvious. Our friend might want to study English literature or American Literature or any other literature written in English. Would that be questioned?
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#6 (permalink) Sun Aug 05, 2007 21:55 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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When I saw lovelyjitu's question I had to chuckle because I knew it would start an interesting debate about which version of spoken English should be learned. lovelyjitu, what I recommend is that you start getting exposed to spoken English as much as possible. Books and websites are not the best resources if you want to speak English because what you need is "audio input". The more you listen to English the better you will understand that there is great variety of spoken "Englishes" each of which has its charm. Watch CNN on a regular basis and you will hear "Bulgarian American English" spoken by Ralitsa Vassileva, South African English (which is very close to standard British English) spoken by Anand Naidoo and Tumi Makgabo, Australian English spoken by Michael Holmes, "RP" (British English), spoken by Becky Anderson and so on. It is important for you to listen to authentic English as much as possible. When you want to learn to speak English, listening is more important than speaking.
Can you distinguish between different accents and dialects? If not, the likelihood that you can imitate any of the many spoken versions of English is rather small. I think this is the reason why many Indians or Pakistani don't sound neither American nor British or Canadian. They just sound Indian or Pakistani. Take Pervez Musharraf, how would you classify his accent -- is it British or American? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#7 (permalink) Sun Aug 05, 2007 22:38 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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| English comes 3rd or 4th in the world's top ten languages |
Interesting.
I was surprised when read this. In fact, it is on the 3rd place based on the statistics that counts population using it as a first-language, that is - native speakers. First place belongs to Mandarin, while the second is occupied by Spanish.
Of more interest, I think, is the statistics that counts not only native, but rather all speakers of the language. It is probably very difficult to implement, but here is what I found: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm
According to internet-usage statistics, English is on the first place, with Chinese and Spanish on 2nd and 3rd respectively. So, everything is in order! _________________ my game is fair play |
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#8 (permalink) Tue Aug 07, 2007 17:15 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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EU,
he/she wants to learn to spell a bunch of words incorrectly.
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#9 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 13:10 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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| aereal wrote: |
| Alan wrote: |
| English comes 3rd or 4th in the world's top ten languages |
Interesting.
I was surprised when read this. In fact, it is on the 3rd place based on the statistics that counts population using it as a first-language, that is - native speakers. First place belongs to Mandarin, while the second is occupied by Spanish.
Of more interest, I think, is the statistics that counts not only native, but rather all speakers of the language. It is probably very difficult to implement, but here is what I found: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm
According to internet-usage statistics, English is on the first place, with Chinese and Spanish on 2nd and 3rd respectively. So, everything is in order! |
It helps that the British owned a big part of Asia and Africa. In many former British colonies, even though the people are fluent in speaking their mother tongues, most of the time, they cannot, however, read or write their mother tongues better than English, which is sometimes the first or only language they developed literacy in. I wouldn't personally consider English a second language to them. |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 14:18 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi,
I am intrigued, Amy, why you ask:
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Why do you want to become an expert in speaking British English, lovelyjitu? . |
Given that there are some 400-500 million speakers of English and that it comes 3rd or 4th in the world's top ten languages of whom a certain percentage come from the UK and that they speak so-called British English and there are I presume a number of speakers speaking British English who do not come from the UK, I don't see why Lovelyjitu's reason for wanting to speak the British brand has to be questioned and nor do I believe the choice is obvious. Our friend might want to study English literature or American Literature or any other literature written in English. Would that be questioned?
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My goodness, Alan! I didn't expect my simple question to be found so intriguing. Imagine that! An extremely simple question, asked out of sheer curiosity is intriguing!
I feel I must point out, however, that I did not question or cast any doubt on any desire to study literature. That was entirely your mind playing tricks on you. I've now done some homework on your behalf. I've spoken with a PhD in pharmaceutics who assured me that, even in Britain, there are plenty of reliable remedies on the market to help those suffering from hallucinations and complexes such as yours.
If it was so all-fired important to you to respond in this thread, why in the world did you allow lovelyjitu's question to go completely unanswered and unacknowledged for so long? Why haven't you shown any interest in responding to lovelyjitu's request? Weren't you even the least little bit intrigued as to why lovelyjitu wants to speak expert British English?
I thought Torsten gave lovelyjitu some good information and tips. For the record, though, I am still curious to know why lovelyjitu wants to learn British English pronunciation in particular. I hope you can cope with all this intrigue, Alan. . |
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#11 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 14:33 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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Hi Amy,
To me, the sentence "Our friend might want to study English literature or American Literature or any other literature written in English" is not the result of a hallucination or complex, it's just a suggestion. What exactly is the connection between British English and your friend, the PhD pharmacist? Did he or she study in the UK? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 14:46 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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. Alan stated that there might be a desire to study literature and asked would whether that would be questioned. Do you know the meaning of "to question something", Torsten? Judging by what you wrote, I'd say you don't.
My PhD source is not a 'he', and yes, her company is also very active in the UK and she has spent quite a bit of time there. There is no more connection to British English than that. However, for native-speakers in the UK who hallucinate about simple, everyday questions, it's nice to know that there are remedies on the market. |
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#13 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 14:47 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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Yes I do and that's why I'm still mystified about your pharmacist and the remedies you mentioned. _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#14 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 15:17 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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would be the slang?
Cause once I watch the movie made in British I can not catch the words as the English:P |
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#15 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 15:26 pm What's the difference between British English and Other English? |
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Hi Torsten
OK, let's say I met someone new. As often happens, we might engage in some get-to-know-each-other-a-bit small talk. Imagine that the person told me that they wanted to become proficient in ballroom dancing. Imagine that I then asked them why. According to your definition of "to question something", is that what the question "Why do you want to be proficient in ballroom dancing?" amounts to? Questioning the person's decision to do something? I certainly hope not!
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I didn't question anything; I asked in a very simple, straightforward manner for additional information. |
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