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haven't taken as I expected #1 (permalink) Wed Aug 08, 2007 14:14 pm   haven't taken as I expected
 

You haven't taken as I expected. You should have completed 50 essays by this time.
Is this sentence correct? [Particularly, is the use of "take" here is correct?]

Please help me.
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haven't taken as I expected #2 (permalink) Wed Aug 08, 2007 14:23 pm   haven't taken as I expected
 

The last sentence I can't see anything wrong, I think it's OK. As for the first one I'm not sure I know it.

You should have completed 50 essays by this time.
=You should complete 50 essays by this time, but you did not.

Yet I feel a little confused if there is a situation that we would say ~ by this time.
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haven't taken as I expected #3 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:48 am   haven't taken as I expected
 

I think, to take = to do or perform as expected

Then, why should I not use "haven't taken" here?
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haven't taken as I expected #4 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:22 am   haven't taken as I expected
 

"haven't taken" is fine.

I mean you can read the sentence in another way.

=I had wanted to call you last night.
=I wanted to have call you last night.
=I wanted to call you last night, but I did not.

So is your sentence: You should have completed 50 essays by this time.

It means: You should complete 50 essays by this time, but you did not.

What confuses me is that would we ourselves said ~by this time?

Sir: You must finish that work by this Sun.. (normal)
Sir: You must finish that work by this time. (odd)
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haven't taken as I expected #5 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:26 am   haven't taken as I expected
 

learning_english wrote:
You haven't taken as I expected. You should have completed 50 essays by this time.
Is this sentence correct? [Particularly, is the use of "take" here is correct?]

Please help me.

Hi LE

In view of the tense usage in your first sentence (i.e. context), it is correct to say "You should have completed 50 essays by this time."

In your sentence, "You should have completed" refers to time before now (past). "You should complete" does not mean the same thing -- it refers to the future.

There is nothing odd about saying "by this time". It's fine. In the context of your sentences, I would understand "by this time" to mean the same thing as "by now".

No, your usage of take doesn't make any sense. I assume that the definition you have found is the same as definition 88 here:
take
88. to have the intended result or effect, as a medicine, inoculation, etc.:
"The vaccination took."


Instead of 'taken', you could use 'performed' in your first sentence:
You haven't performed as I expected.
Or you could say this:
Your performance has not met my expectations.
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haven't taken as I expected #6 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:30 am   haven't taken as I expected
 

edison_chen_e_c wrote:
You should complete 50 essays by this time, but you did not.


Hi, edison_chen_e_c

your sentence reads inconsistent.
You should have completed 50 essays by this time, but you did not

Hi, Amy

I was wondering if it is correct to say "your sentence reads inconsistent". Do you perceive it as a natural choise, or it is better to say "your sentence is inconsistent"
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haven't taken as I expected #7 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:03 am   haven't taken as I expected
 

Hi LS

I'd stick with 'is' in this case.
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haven't taken as I expected #8 (permalink) Fri Aug 10, 2007 16:30 pm   haven't taken as I expected
 

Hi, YK and LS:
Please correct me in that kind of sentence. This is what I'm thinking:

1.It should rain now.
meaning: It does not rain now.

2.It should have rained then.
meaning: It did not rain then.

3.You should have completed 50 essays by this time (by now).
meaning: You did not complete 50 essays by now.

Lead me out of the mess, thanks for making me clear.
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