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14 august #1 (permalink) Thu Aug 16, 2007 19:58 pm   14 august
 

Hi,

I know some people here dislike this subject, but I have to share all world in our happiness in this a great day.

first I want to give all my congratulations to world, this day is victory day /14 august / all honorable people celebrate in this day.

our sir and resistance's master "Hassan Nasr Allah" talk on the Tv about this occasion and he said:

first I want to give all my respect to militants who's give their life and everything for their motherland.

we're victory and our enemy lost the war, and when I said I did what I said. we were told truth and israeli people believed in us.

the important thing from his talk:

we don't walk to the war ,But If Israel think in the war , we promise it.....
it'll see a big surprise, may it end the problem in this place.

now we live in the hotest spot on earth and most multi media said around our zone" its zone no war no peace"

in the end we don't like war, but if anyone think he able on attacking us, he will a big loser in this game.

anybady here love live with peace and we also take all our rights.

a big primal rule the ground against peace

I make prayer for peace
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14 august #2 (permalink) Thu Aug 16, 2007 23:06 pm   14 august
 

Hi Mba,

As long as you are talking about "enemies" and "militants" there won't be peace and nobody will accomplish anything. Trying to prove whose god is better is a futile endeavor that has yielded nothing but destruction. If you had been born on the Israeli side, you would have grown up as a Jewish extremist claiming that the Arabs are the "enemy". None of you is right because you are using the exact same methods pointing your fingers at each other. The only solution is for both of you to stop talking about the "enemy".

If you don't understand that you have to communicate with each other and concentrate on your common goals, you will continue to suffer. You will continue claiming that your god is the best and that you are the better people and the Israelis will be doing exactly the same. You are claiming that you are right and the Israelis have been doing the same. This has been going on for centuries and will be going on for quite some time. Nobody has ever won an argument.

The more you are trying to persuade the world that you are right and the others are wrong, the more the others will try to do exactly the same. You have to come up with something new, innovative ideas. Instead you just keep on harping about the same thing like previous generations. All you can do is to claim that the others are the bad guys and you are the good ones. So what? What exactly makes you better than the others? Saying that you will conquer the enemy? In saying so you already show that you are no better than your alleged enemy. Change your point of view if you want to change your situation. Keep going on what you have been doing and your situation will stay as miserable as it has been for centuries.
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14 august #3 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 13:52 pm   14 august
 

Hi Torsten
yeah maybe, you're right .
but I think everyone should know israel occupy our land Jolan, and If Israel wants peace with us.
the first thing must do, it drops out from our land.
we don't hate God of the jews because he same our God,for that we don't hate the jews
the God is one and only. Wink

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14 august #4 (permalink) Fri Aug 17, 2007 14:55 pm   14 august
 

Hi Mba,

I'm glad you agree with me. Throughout history there have been thousands of wars and battles over land. The term "our land" is very vague and defining who owns what territory can be a long and difficult process. Again, you won't find a solution by claiming that the Israelis occupied your land because they will by simply saying that this is not true. Also, what makes you think that everyone knows what is going in your region? Do you know what is happening in Peru, Cambodia or Ghana?
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14 august #5 (permalink) Sat Aug 18, 2007 18:37 pm   14 august
 

Hi Torsten Smile

of course, this term "our land" seem to west world very vague.

but just F.U.I

" israel says everyday: Jolan is syrian land and we don't want to go out from this land and UN said the same thing too."

in the near past, Israel said I want peace with all arabs but in the same time, she did the war in lebanon. by the way, we Know real Israel, I think before one day she said I don't want war with Syria but in the same day Israel and USA signed protocol for USA give the newest weapons in the world to Israel.(why?!!....)

but!!!
If Syria try get on some of rockets "anti-planes" just for defiance not for attack, you and all west say syria have guns and Israel in a big danger and we should protect Israel( this big untruth ).

you and everyone know in "his or her" depth Israel has took our territory and israel creates war not Arabs ( in the most time).

ok, I don't have a lot of information about what is happening in the all earth? for that, I always try don't write anything I don't know it.

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14 august #6 (permalink) Sat Aug 18, 2007 19:10 pm   14 august
 

Hi Mba,

Although it might be difficult at first, you really should try and see the situation from the other party's perspective too. As I said, if you keep on telling the world that you are the good people and the others are the trouble makers you won't change the current situation. Not one single bit. Let's take a look at the facts: You have always said that Israel is the aggressor and you are the victims. Israel has always said you are the aggressors and they are the victims. What has been the result of this? Trouble. Now, if you want to change the situation you have to change something. Don't hope that the others will change anything.

They will only change if you start changing your attitude. Is it really possible that one side is totally wrong and the other side is totally right? That would be too simple. It's never black and white, it's always shades of grey. As with any argument, there are always at least three sides: there is your side, there is the other party's side and there is the right side which is usually in the middle of both. The more you try to convince the world that you are totally innocent, the worse your situation will become. Pointing the finger at others means weakness. Admitting mistakes and trying to correct them means strength.

By the way, what does "F.U.I." stand for?
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14 august #7 (permalink) Sat Aug 18, 2007 22:34 pm   14 august
 

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in the near past, Israel said I want peace with all arabs but in the same time, she did the war in lebanon. by the way, we Know real Israel, I think before one day she said I don't want war with Syria but in the same day Israel and USA signed protocol for USA give the newest weapons in the world to Israel.(why?!!..


I guess many Israelis are peace orientated people many are probably militants as well but Israel is
only one "democratic" country in the region.
The west countries and any other democracy always would prefer to deal with democracy as with .... Syria.
Syria had very nice people for sure but is widely recognized different as democracy.
I don't like Israel I admire Jews for they hard work but I don't like ortodox where ever they are from. I never would let them die if they would be attacked because the are quite democratic to me .I have been in the region few times not just in Syria.What I remember now for example...

In Beirut some Moslem's Docker wanted to push me down from third row high containers just when I demanded to return our twist locks back on board.
On opposite --- Christian worker was waiting with me hours opening every container door never complain and proud saying "me ... Christian".
Well good -- he had given me just the chance to make my job correct ???
and I was really pissed off about another because I don't
like situation like this at all.But everyday live had a lot of effects after all.
And I am now very much directed against and pro.

Politic is very sick Dear Dark ... we should leave it for ever.
In my opinion --
Israel wouldn't attack first Israel need to be first been attacked to be able to gain world support.
I wouldn't underestimate anybody.Specially Jews.


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14 august #8 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 15:19 pm   14 august
 

Hi,

I saw a big problem is. You just hear to west media and may to Israel media.
All these media talk around west viewpoint and I think nobody try know our opinion.
I mean when you hear in your media any news about troubles between Israel and Arabic world, may you believe it, but you should know what say another side.
Because you can't make a clear image without hear another side.

Ok, I have one question for west world:
Could tell me, how number the west people who listen to arabic news?

When anyone wants to give solutions, I guess he have to know all viewpoints in the region.

Yeah Torsten may you are right and I agree with all your ideas, in the end we must keep in touch between all world's cultures.
About FUI, I tech from my teacher it's mean for your information that's right?! Smile


Best wishes
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14 august #9 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 15:40 pm   14 august
 

Hi Mba,

I think you brought up a very interesting question: How do we use mass media and information sources? You say that we use "western media" but this term is very vague. I grew up in the "East" and when I was a child I was not allowed to use "western media". When it comes to media usage, language plays an important role. If Israel broadcast news only in Hebrew, their reach would be very limited. If Arab countries broadcast their news only in Arabic, their reach would be limited to the Arabic speaking world. So, in order to increase your media coverage you simply have to increase your English language broadcasting activities.

As for the abbreviation it's FYI (for your information).
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14 august #10 (permalink) Fri Aug 24, 2007 13:15 pm   14 august
 

Hi Torsten,

first let me thanks you too much, about your explaining.

sure, I and you. we have the same Idea, but about why Arabic media don't use the another languages when it deals with Western world?
I think you didn't note most Arabic media used english and French languages, and sometime it used hebrew language.
for example our Tv (Syrian Tv). we have nearly in everyday news by english and french and hebrew.

by the way, I remember when french government (democratic government) forbidden AL MANAR-TV.
also, Al jezeera Tv for news its forbidden in USA in once last years.

Ok, arabic medai don't have a huge balance-sheet such as western media.

I hope to watch arabic media talk in all world's languages.

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