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#2 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:50 pm Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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. Ugh! What is 'bed tea'? The whole statement is too graphic to be acceptable in mainstream writing. Simply: 'You must rinse out your mouth in the morning'. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 13:48 pm Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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| Mister Micawber wrote: |
. Ugh! What is 'bed tea'? The whole statement is too graphic to be acceptable in mainstream writing. Simply: 'You must rinse out your mouth in the morning'. . |
Many thanks, MM
...but if a doctor is explaining to someone (as to?) why they should not take bed tea--then how will you find the following?
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| You mustn't take bed tea. You must rinse out the dirty substance in your mouth accumulated over the night. |
Thanks in advance
Tom
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#4 (permalink) Mon Aug 20, 2007 14:08 pm Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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. You haven't told me what 'bed tea' is yet.
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#5 (permalink) Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:10 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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. Tom, do you mean that a doctor might tell patients that they should not drink tea in bed at night unless they get up and rinse out their mouths before going to sleep? :? . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#6 (permalink) Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:11 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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. Tom, do you mean that a doctor might tell patients that they should not drink tea in bed at night unless they get up and rinse out their mouths before going to sleep? :? . |
Many thanks, MM and Amy
I was really surprised to see that you people wanted me to explain bed tea to you? It is very frequently used in Pakistan—here in means tea taken in bed as soon as you wake up in the morning. In fact, this tea is taken to wake you up. You do not brush your teeth or rinse your mouth before this tea. So a doctor advises his patient:
http://www.google.com.pk/search?hl=en&q=%22bed+tea%22&meta=
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| You mustn't take bed tea. You must rinse out the dirty substance in your mouth accumulated over the night. |
Now I am curious--please discuss bed tea with me. :)
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#7 (permalink) Tue Aug 21, 2007 16:52 pm Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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Hi Tom
I'm familiar with the expression "breakfast in bed", but I'd never heard the expression "bed tea" before. Does someone bring the tea directly to you while you're still in bed? Or do you have to get up, make the tea, and then bring it back to bed yourself? Is it hot tea or cold tea? . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#8 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:36 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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Hi Tom
Does someone bring the tea directly to you while you're still in bed? |
Yes, Amy
There is no question of getting up and making tea for yourself, because the whole concept of hot, bed tea goes away. Many people wake up only through taking bed tea. They keep lying in bed (with their eyes closed) and sipping at bed tea. This supposedly helps them sort of wake up. So, now back to my original sentence--since doctors advise against bed tea, how do you find the red remark?
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| You mustn't take bed tea. You must rinse out the dirty substance in your mouth accumulated over the night. |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:23 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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. I still find it unpleasantly put. A doctor would perhaps say something like 'you should rinse your mouth with clean water in the morning instead of drinking tea', leaving the 'dirty substance' (ugh!) to the individual imagination. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:00 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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| Tom wrote: |
Yes, Amy
There is no question of getting up and making tea for yourself, because the whole concept of hot, bed tea goes away. Many people wake up only through taking bed tea. They keep lying in bed (with their eyes closed) and sipping at bed tea. This supposedly helps them sort of wake up. |
So, somebody serves you hot tea in the morning? I mean, how can you drink hot tea in bed without getting up and fixing it? Or do you keep it in a thermos flask during the night?
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#11 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:28 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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No, Torsten, it's not kept in a thermos. Your servant or wife or someone else (who is not habitual of bed tea himself) serves you in the morning. :D
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#12 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:30 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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What if we don't have a servant and my wife wants bed tea as well?
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#13 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:31 am Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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Well, they say:
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What cannot be cured must be endured.
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PS: Believe me, she will end up getting it finally-- :shock: You will soon forget that once you were also fond of bed tea. :o :lol: :D You will be able to look back and say: "Well, that's the past now."
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#14 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 18:00 pm Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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. Somehow I can't help but think that if my husband expected me to prepare and serve him 'bed tea' every morning, his 'bed tea' would eventually end up being lavishly poured all over his face. I think that might be an even more effective means of waking him up. :shock: :wink: :lol:
PS I agree with MM. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#15 (permalink) Wed Aug 22, 2007 19:12 pm Expression: 'You must rince out the dirty substance in...' |
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Hi,
How about this?
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