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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?



 
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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #1 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:12 am   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

Hello,

In the sentence: "It was ok, but not very nice though"

It is mandatory to use though instead of although

What is the grammar rule if extist??

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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #2 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:52 am   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

Hi Alumn@

No, you cannot use although at the end of a sentence.

Both though and although can be used as conjunctions to introduce a subordinate clause. The meaning is 'in spite of the fact that'.

Though can also be used as an adverb at the end of a sentence. In this case, the meaning is similar to 'however'.
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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #3 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:52 am   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

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In your sentence, 'though' is an adverb. 'Although' does not serve that function.

As conjunctions, the American Heritage Dictionary has this to say:

As conjunctions, 'although' and 'though' are generally interchangeable: 'Although' (or 'though') she smiled, she was angry'. 'Although' is usually placed at the beginning of its clause (as in the preceding example), whereas 'though' may occur elsewhere and is the more common term when used to link words or phrases, as in 'wiser though poorer'. In certain constructions, only 'though' is acceptable: 'Fond though (not 'although') I am of sports, I'd rather not sit through another basketball game'.
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although / despite #4 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:16 pm   although / despite
 

Good explanation ! Thanks

What about next sentence?

"We enjoy it despite the accident we had"

According the grammar i read we can't use although instead of despite here, but we can do it in the next sentence:

"We enjoy it despite we had the accident"

Please could you confrm:
1. Both sentences above are correct
2. We can't use although in the first one sentence

Thanks a lot !![/b]
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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #5 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:42 pm   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

<despite>: a preposition, which must be followed by a noun or proun.

We enjoy it despite the accident (we had).
despite: prep
the accident: noun
we had: relative clause omitting relative proun

Although, though can't be prepositions and they can't be here. Yet they can be being between two "clauses".
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We enjoy it despite we had the accident.

Is it correct? As I know 'despite' cannot be a preposition. Any ideas?
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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #6 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 13:19 pm   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

edison_chen_e_c wrote:
<despite>: a preposition, which must be followed by a noun or proun.

We enjoy it despite the accident (we had).
despite: prep
the accident: noun
we had: relative clause omitting relative proun

Although, though can't be prepositions and they can't be here. Yet they can be being between two "clauses". Yes, although and though can be used a conjunctions to introduce a subordinate clause.
-
We enjoy it despite we had the accident. X

Is it correct? No, that sentence is grammatically wrong. As I know 'despite' cannot be a preposition. Any ideas?

The sentence in red (above) would be correctly written this way:

We enjoy it despite the fact that we had the accident.
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"We enjoy it although we had the accident" #7 (permalink) Thu Aug 23, 2007 13:31 pm   "We enjoy it although we had the accident"
 

I agree with your nice explanation...

In fact The second sentence was my mistake, because of the copy&paste..

The correct one should be:

"We enjoy it although we had the accident"

just to show the difference in use betwen although/despite

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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #8 (permalink) Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:42 am   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

Yankee wrote:
edison_chen_e_c wrote:
<despite>: a preposition, which must be followed by a noun or proun.

We enjoy it despite the accident (we had).
despite: prep
the accident: noun
we had: relative clause omitting relative proun

Although, though can't be prepositions and they can't be here. Yet they can be being between two "clauses". Yes, although and though can be used a conjunctions to introduce a subordinate clause.
-
We enjoy it despite we had the accident. X

Is it correct? No, that sentence is grammatically wrong. As I know 'despite' cannot be a preposition. Any ideas?

The sentence in red (above) would be correctly written this way:

We enjoy it despite the fact that we had the accident.
.


We enjoy it despite the fact that we had the accident.

And is it correct if I neglect 'the fact' being this way?
We enjoy it despite that we had the accident.
Can a noun clause be a object of a preposition?
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Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position? #9 (permalink) Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:47 am   Although vs. Though -- Only depending on position?
 

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An infinitive and a noun clause can be the objects of a verb, yet can they be those of a preposition?
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