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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")



 
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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #1 (permalink) Mon Aug 27, 2007 21:59 pm   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

Hi all,

I don't understand the use of "be" here:

Unless he be very much changed ...

Any ideas??

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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #2 (permalink) Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:02 am   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

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It is a use of the present subjunctive form of the verb for a hypothetical/conditional situation. It is not common, and mostly AmE.

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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #3 (permalink) Tue Aug 28, 2007 19:15 pm   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

Mister Micawber wrote:
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It is a use of the present subjunctive form of the verb for a hypothetical/conditional situation. [/i]
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Do we use it (subjunctive) after "Unless", "Whatever" etc? As u wrote? or after any other words?
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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #4 (permalink) Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:18 am   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

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The present subjunctive is often (but not always) used with these verbs and phrases:
    ask (that)
    be determined (that)
    demand (that)
    emphasize (that)
    insist (that)
    move (that)
    on the condition (that)
    propose (that)
    provided (that)
    recommend (that)
    request (that)
    require (that)
    so that it not (that)
    suggest (that)
    urge (that)

"The consultant recommends that additional staff be hired."

The present subjunctive is also often used with certain adjectives in this format:
It is’ + adjective + that + noun/pronoun + subjunctive:

It is critical / crucial / essential / imperative / important / necessary / vital (that)...

"It is vital that he stop smoking immediately."
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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #5 (permalink) Wed Aug 29, 2007 14:15 pm   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #6 (permalink) Wed Aug 29, 2007 14:51 pm   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

Hi,

You probably want to have a look at Alan's article about the subjunctive in English.
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Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be") #7 (permalink) Wed Jul 09, 2008 14:13 pm   Unless he be very much changed ... (use of "be")
 

Hi,
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Unless he be very much changed ...
Mister Micawber wrote:
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=> Is it really necessary to use subjunctive form here? Or can we say "unless he is very much changed..."?
It is a use of the present subjunctive form of the verb for a hypothetical/conditional situation. It is not common, and mostly AmE.
=> Not in British English?
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