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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'



 
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Tue Sep 11, 2007 16:23 pm  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

What is the difference between the two?
some kind of book
a book of some kind

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some kind of/of some kind Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:58 am  some kind of/of some kind
 

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Nothing that I can discern here. 'Some kind of' also has a casual exclamatory meaning: Wow! That was some kind of adventure story! It had me on the edge of my seat for the last 100 pages!
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some kind of/of some kind Wed Sep 12, 2007 15:44 pm  some kind of/of some kind
 

Mister Micawber wrote:
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Nothing that I can discern here. 'Some kind of' also has a casual exclamatory meaning: Wow! That was some kind of adventure story! It had me on the edge of my seat for the last 100 pages!
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Hi, Mr. MM, so can I regard 'They have photos from a ceremony of some kind' as 'They have photos from some kind of ceremony' ?
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Thu Sep 13, 2007 0:29 am  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

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They seem the same to me.
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Thu Sep 13, 2007 14:52 pm  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

Hi, MM

I know that there is a set expression: of a kind, isn't there?
Which means "in bad condition".
Like: I was mad at him because he'd presented me an umbrella of a kind on my birthday

What do you think?
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Thu Sep 13, 2007 15:10 pm  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

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I seem to recall such; I don't use it much. Maybe another member can offer you more opinion on it.
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Thu Sep 13, 2007 15:44 pm  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

I'm not sure 'of a kind' is used to mean 'in bad condition' necessarily, but it can have the sense of 'indifferent (or maybe even mediocre/disappointing) quality':

of a kind

Other similar set phrases with a different meaning are:

be one of a kind
be two of a kind
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:46 am  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

Thanks all, I understand it now.
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'some kind of' vs 'of some kind' Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:17 am  'some kind of' vs 'of some kind'
 

good lesson!

of a kind means disappointing quality

i've got it, thanks
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