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Any advice on mobbing? #1 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 14:29 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

One of the schools I work for occasionally uses me to interpret in legal matters. Today I had a second meeting with a lawyer and a woman who appears to be a victim of mobbing (the woman, that is). Her scholarship was terminated prematurely by the institute she had worked for. The institute is connected to the university, and she was supposed to do her PhD in a special field of microbiology. To her mind, they simply wanted to get rid of her because she had the feeling that they wanted to get her out of what they felt was a homogeneous team. She just didn't fit in. The way she described it, she was treated in a very disrespectful and also discriminating way for both religious and ethnic reasons.

But in the letter of revocation it reads “Revocation resulted due to important reason in connection with a social deadline terminating on July 31st 2007. Revocation is based on severe and sustainable danger to the productivity of the work-group's teamwork, particularly imposed by repetitive and inappropriate reproaches addressed to the team leader and other team members as well as the threat of committing suicide.”

She claims that none of this is true, but at the same time she is convinced that the whole team will testify against her. Moreover, the lawyer thinks that she will not be able to produce any evidence for mobbing since the whole team opposes her.

Do you have any idea or suggestion what she could do?
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Any advice on mobbing? #2 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 15:57 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Hi Ralf

I have come across this before. I would suggest consulting good old Eva or Martin, the oracles for legal stuff in Germany.

However to get you started on "bullying in the workplace" (aka mobbing) try this website where I got some good information for discussion.

http://www.mobbing-web.de/

Maybe make the theme a subject of a conversation lesson, or frame it as a case study (omitting the details of the victim of course).

If the lawyer can not help, it does not always mean there are no avenues.

trying to help!

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Any advice on mobbing? #3 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 16:36 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Hi Stew,

Thanks for the tip.

Has anyone ever come across a case of mobbing, or have you heard of somebody who has?
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Any advice on mobbing? #4 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 17:08 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Hi

Of course I have, the mobbing was part of a "You male" German/International company. i had a one to one whose job was to deal with integration in said company. She did not know how to deal with the Sikh Indian lady, but she did well by bringing in a mediator.

Also look at the "wonderba" Krissy Jacksons and her thread here;

https://www.xing.com/app/forum?op=showarticles&id=5993565&articleid=5993565

Up to date dealings, maybe ping (msg) her.

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Any advice on mobbing? #5 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 18:59 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Mobbing?

I recommend Italians or Sicilians.

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Any advice on mobbing? #6 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 19:49 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

prezbucky wrote:
Mobbing?

I recommend Italians or Sicilians.

hehe

Honestly, this girl is stranded and destitute. She's from Missouri originally, but since her family background is everything but affluent she cannot even afford to fly back. Here, she is completely dependent on friends who let her sleep on their couch, give her food and help her finance the law suit. The whole affair will probably take 6 to 9 months.

And she doesn't want to go back either because she honestly believes that justice could be done, and that she could get her "dream scholarship" back.
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Any advice on mobbing? #7 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 22:30 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

tough situation

How are her supporters holding up?
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Any advice on mobbing? #8 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 22:41 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

prezbucky wrote:
tough situation

How are her supporters holding up?


I have no idea. I've only ever met her. Or do you mean with her?
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Any advice on mobbing? #9 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 23:26 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

I mean are they able to carry her burden?

Are they okay with it, or are they griping about it (etc.)?
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Any advice on mobbing? #10 (permalink) Fri Oct 12, 2007 13:29 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

prezbucky wrote:
I mean are they able to carry her burden?

Are they okay with it, or are they griping about it (etc.)?

This is what I can't tell. I'd say they do it because they like her. But I suppose that having to support somebody for a period of 6 to 9 months does not make for a happy situation. At the moment she is "friend hopping". I just hope that she won't lose her confidence, and that the what seems to be a hopeless case will end well in the end.
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Any advice on mobbing? #11 (permalink) Fri Oct 12, 2007 23:04 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Hopefully she will persevere and (at the same time) manage not to wear out her welcome.

If she had to get a job to help support herself, could she do so?
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Any advice on mobbing? #12 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 0:20 am   Any advice on mobbing?
 

prezbucky wrote:
Hopefully she will persevere and (at the same time) manage not to wear out her welcome.

If she had to get a job to help support herself, could she do so?

In theory, yes. But Leipzig is a place where even local students find it hard to get a job. Close to 20% unemployment proffer you an infertile soil for unskilled labour. She needs to bring about some change, but I don't know what to tell her.
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Any advice on mobbing? #13 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:35 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

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I know the word 'mobbing' with the definition you're referring to here as a German word. It does not have the same meaning in American English. Has this definition of mobbing been adopted in British English?

I apologize profusely in advance for the off-topic question, but this is an English forum, and I have not heard the word 'mobbing' used this way in English. Thus my question.
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Any advice on mobbing? #14 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:51 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Yankee wrote:
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I know the word 'mobbing' with the definition you're referring to here as a German word. It does not have the same meaning in American English. Has this definition of mobbing been adopted in British English?.

To me it is bullying or herassing on a psychological level. But I'm not an expert on British English, and in this case said woman has to deal with German authorities.

How would you define 'mobbing' from an American perspective? Is there a legal dimension of the term?
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Any advice on mobbing? #15 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 14:47 pm   Any advice on mobbing?
 

Hi Ralf and Yankee

I was of the opinion that mobbing was distinctively a word used in German. However the student at Siemens pointed me to a book by Dr. Noa Zanolli Davenport, Ruth Distler Schwartz, and Gail Pursell Elliott, and later I found an American website;

http://www.mobbing-usa.com/

I just think the term has no wide spread use as such in British or American English.

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