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#2 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 15:57 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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Hi Ralf
I have come across this before. I would suggest consulting good old Eva or Martin, the oracles for legal stuff in Germany.
However to get you started on "bullying in the workplace" (aka mobbing) try this website where I got some good information for discussion.
http://www.mobbing-web.de/
Maybe make the theme a subject of a conversation lesson, or frame it as a case study (omitting the details of the victim of course).
If the lawyer can not help, it does not always mean there are no avenues.
trying to help!
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#4 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 17:08 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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Hi
Of course I have, the mobbing was part of a "You male" German/International company. i had a one to one whose job was to deal with integration in said company. She did not know how to deal with the Sikh Indian lady, but she did well by bringing in a mediator.
Also look at the "wonderba" Krissy Jacksons and her thread here;
https://www.xing.com/app/forum?op=showarticles&id=5993565&articleid=5993565
Up to date dealings, maybe ping (msg) her.
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#5 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 18:59 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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Mobbing?
I recommend Italians or Sicilians.
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#6 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 19:49 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
Mobbing?
I recommend Italians or Sicilians.
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Honestly, this girl is stranded and destitute. She's from Missouri originally, but since her family background is everything but affluent she cannot even afford to fly back. Here, she is completely dependent on friends who let her sleep on their couch, give her food and help her finance the law suit. The whole affair will probably take 6 to 9 months.
And she doesn't want to go back either because she honestly believes that justice could be done, and that she could get her "dream scholarship" back. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#7 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 22:30 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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tough situation
How are her supporters holding up? _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#9 (permalink) Thu Oct 11, 2007 23:26 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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I mean are they able to carry her burden?
Are they okay with it, or are they griping about it (etc.)? _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Oct 12, 2007 13:29 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
I mean are they able to carry her burden?
Are they okay with it, or are they griping about it (etc.)? |
This is what I can't tell. I'd say they do it because they like her. But I suppose that having to support somebody for a period of 6 to 9 months does not make for a happy situation. At the moment she is "friend hopping". I just hope that she won't lose her confidence, and that the what seems to be a hopeless case will end well in the end. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#11 (permalink) Fri Oct 12, 2007 23:04 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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Hopefully she will persevere and (at the same time) manage not to wear out her welcome.
If she had to get a job to help support herself, could she do so? _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#12 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 0:20 am Any advice on mobbing? |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
Hopefully she will persevere and (at the same time) manage not to wear out her welcome.
If she had to get a job to help support herself, could she do so? |
In theory, yes. But Leipzig is a place where even local students find it hard to get a job. Close to 20% unemployment proffer you an infertile soil for unskilled labour. She needs to bring about some change, but I don't know what to tell her. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#13 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:35 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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. I know the word 'mobbing' with the definition you're referring to here as a German word. It does not have the same meaning in American English. Has this definition of mobbing been adopted in British English?
I apologize profusely in advance for the off-topic question, but this is an English forum, and I have not heard the word 'mobbing' used this way in English. Thus my question. . |
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#14 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:51 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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| Yankee wrote: |
. I know the word 'mobbing' with the definition you're referring to here as a German word. It does not have the same meaning in American English. Has this definition of mobbing been adopted in British English?. |
To me it is bullying or herassing on a psychological level. But I'm not an expert on British English, and in this case said woman has to deal with German authorities.
How would you define 'mobbing' from an American perspective? Is there a legal dimension of the term? _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#15 (permalink) Sat Oct 13, 2007 14:47 pm Any advice on mobbing? |
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Hi Ralf and Yankee
I was of the opinion that mobbing was distinctively a word used in German. However the student at Siemens pointed me to a book by Dr. Noa Zanolli Davenport, Ruth Distler Schwartz, and Gail Pursell Elliott, and later I found an American website;
http://www.mobbing-usa.com/
I just think the term has no wide spread use as such in British or American English.
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