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#2 (permalink) Thu Oct 18, 2007 14:00 pm 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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. It is a free choice if the road is level. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:54 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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| Mister Micawber wrote: |
. It is a free choice if the road is level. . |
Really? How ruleless English is! I was guessing there be such differences as between coming and going, between southwards and northwards,etc.
Thank you, MM. |
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Iwanna I'm here quite often ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:13 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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. Nope. It may, however, be influenced by what your neighbors say. People have a tendency to use the same in the same stretch of the same street. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:32 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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| In your examples, Iwanna, the use of 'up' and 'down' seems to imply that the subject is moving, respectively, closer to or further away from a certain place. It may not necessarily have anything to do with road slope. |
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#7 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:34 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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Hi Iwanna,
Don't you think 'ruleless' is wonderful! That means you can do what you like.
To answer your question I would say that the thought behind the use of 'up' or 'down' is instinctively your sense of north or south. Even if you don't have a compass with you, it is something you sense.
I live just north of London and would say that someone living say in Manchester (north of London) lives 'up north' or someone living in Brighton (on the south coast) lives 'down south'.
Figuratively we say that the stockmarket is 'going north' meaning prices are going up or 'is going south' means prices are going down.
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#8 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:37 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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| Conchita wrote: |
| In your examples, Iwanna, the use of 'up' and 'down' seems to imply that the subject is moving, respectively, closer to or further away from a certain place. It may not necessarily have anything to do with road slope. |
I was guessing so. but, I am not able to determine whether the subject is moving 'closer to' or 'further away' throngh the video, because the camera keeps panning.
I want to know whether this could be taken as a common rule: 'up' implies coming close and 'down' means going off, or otherwise? |
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#9 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:49 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi Iwanna,
Don't you think 'ruleless' is wonderful! That means you can do what you like.
To answer your question I would say that the thought behind the use of 'up' or 'down' is instinctively your sense of north or south. Even if you don't have a compass with you, it is something you sense.
I live just north of London and would say that someone living say in Manchester (north of London) lives 'up north' or someone living in Brighton (on the south coast) lives 'down south'.
Figuratively we say that the stockmarket is 'going north' meaning prices are going up or 'is going south' means prices are going down.
Alan |
That's helpful knowledge and a good guide for me. 'Ruleless' is wonderful indeed, but sometimes 'ruleful' is more practical, isn't it? Thank you, Alan. . |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Oct 19, 2007 14:34 pm 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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| Iwanna wrote: |
| I want to know whether this could be taken as a common rule: 'up' implies coming close and 'down' means going off, or otherwise? |
There's no such rule, as far as I know. Some prepositions can have different meanings according to their context or the verbs used, for example. |
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Conchita Language Coach

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#11 (permalink) Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:04 am 'up the road' versus 'down the road' |
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| Conchita wrote: |
| There's no such rule, as far as I know. Some prepositions can have different meanings according to their context or the verbs used, for example. |
I've got it. 'ruleless' is so wonderful.
Thank you,Conchita. |
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