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would vs. used to Mon Oct 29, 2007 13:37 pm  would vs. used to
 

These two examples are from exercise to unit in grammar textbook dealt with distinctions between using of would and used to. It seems to me that both options fit both sentence. But key to exercise says that there should be used would in the first case and used to in the second one and not the other way around. But I didn't catch the difference, both sentences seem gramatically equal to me. These are examples:

1. When I was younger I would spend hours just kicking ball around the garden.
2. I used to like going to pop concerts when I was a teenager.
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would vs. used to Wed Nov 07, 2007 14:28 pm  would vs. used to
 

1. When I was younger I would spend hours just kicking ball around the garden.

In this sentence, it is possible to replace 'would' with 'used to' with no change in meaning.

2. I used to like going to pop concerts when I was a teenager.

Here, we can't say 'I would like going' since 'would like' is used in the sense of 'want/desire now'.

We could say 'I would go to pop concerts when I was a teenager', though we wouldn't be saying whether we liked going or not. Smile
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would vs. used to Wed Nov 07, 2007 14:51 pm  would vs. used to
 

Also I know that we can say "I used to be an idiot" and "I used to know that guy"
but we can't change "used to" to "would"
I forgot the definition of that damn rule, but I'm pretty sure about those examples. (I'd appreciate input on that)

The same thing is with "wish":
I wish I knew him, I wish I were clever
But
I wish he wouldn't spend hours fooling around
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would vs. used to Wed Nov 07, 2007 15:02 pm  would vs. used to
 

Conchita wrote:
Here, we can't say 'I would like going' since 'would like' is used in the sense of 'want/desire now'.


Thank you very much.
It didn't occure to me that it could be understood as would like in the second sentence.
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would vs. used to Wed Nov 07, 2007 15:23 pm  would vs. used to
 

lost_soul wrote:
Also I know that we can say "I used to be an idiot" and "I used to know that guy"
but we can't change "used to" to "would"

Yes, because when using would we should mention specific time or set of ocasions. So we should use used to in both your examples.

lost_soul wrote:
The same thing is with "wish"

Not exactly the same thing (;
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would vs. used to Wed Nov 07, 2007 15:25 pm  would vs. used to
 

lost_soul wrote:
Also I know that we can say "I used to be an idiot" and "I used to know that guy"
but we can't change "used to" to "would"
I forgot the definition of that damn rule, but I'm pretty sure about those examples. (I'd appreciate input on that)
You're right, Alex.

We use can use 'used to' to refer to past states or events which lasted for or were repeated over long periods of time. You don't necessarily have to specifically mention 'when' in the sentence or context.

We use do not use 'would' to refer to lengthy past states. We use 'would' to refer to repeated or habitual past actions or events. When we use 'would' this way, there usually has to be a clear reference to 'when' also in the sentence or context.
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would vs. used to Wed Nov 07, 2007 21:43 pm  would vs. used to
 

Hi Maxno,

Let's start with the similarity between 'would' and 'used to'. They both encompass repeated states, activities and feelings in the past. The difference for me lies in their use. 'Used to' suggests what was done repeatedly/habitually then but not now as in: I used to smoke a packet of cigarettes a day - indicates I don't do that now. Again: After breakfast I would smoke one or two cigarettes - indicates such was my practice at that time/then but there is no clear connection with now. 'Would' often points to the past in a reflective/sentimental/ even nostalgic manner and is very frequently used in narrative or in literary forms rather than in conversation.

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