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#2 (permalink) Wed Nov 07, 2007 15:03 pm happened or had happened? why? |
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Since it did not happen yesterday (the author is apparently putting it on a bit here), the action expressed by "happen" is unreal. Therefore, c had happened
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#3 (permalink) Wed Nov 07, 2007 15:23 pm happened or had happened? why? |
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| I see. thank you very much. |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:31 am Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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it's so surprising that one of the answers to my question is missing? why? I remember it was given by Conchita. Conchita, do you know why? |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:11 am Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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| I deleleted my answer almost instantly, since I wasn't satisfied with it. On the whole, I agree with what Alex said. The past perfect is used after 'as if/as though' to refer to an unreal situation in the past. |
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#6 (permalink) Thu Nov 08, 2007 14:17 pm Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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| I want to know what you are not satisfied with. ok? |
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#7 (permalink) Thu Nov 08, 2007 15:10 pm Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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Hi, Vaok
Let's wait for a native English speaker to give us a hand, they know better  |
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#8 (permalink) Thu Nov 08, 2007 15:25 pm Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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| vaok wrote: |
| I want to know what you are not satisfied with. ok? |
My answer seemed a bit redundant after Alex's explanation, that's all. |
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#9 (permalink) Fri Nov 09, 2007 0:11 am Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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| Conchita wrote: |
| My answer seemed a bit redundant after Alex's explanation, that's all. |
Oh, I don't think so. Both of your replies are helpful to me.  |
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Vaok I'm here quite often ;-)
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#10 (permalink) Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:24 am Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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. My opinion is that just as either are acceptable nowadays in I remember everything as if it was/were yesterday, both C and D are acceptable in your sentence, vaok. While the condition is certainly unreal, the fading use of the subjunctive causes its use here to appear hypercorrective to many speakers.
Nevertheless, if it is a test question, use C. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#11 (permalink) Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:11 am Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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Thank you very much indeed,Mr Mister Micawber.
Is there anyplace or any tool with which we can chat face to face on the Internet? |
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Vaok I'm here quite often ;-)
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#12 (permalink) Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:36 am Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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. Sorry, vaok-- I hate those things. I was signed up for Skype for a while, and then Googletalk (or whatever it's called), but cancelled them both as a distraction. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#13 (permalink) Fri Nov 09, 2007 14:05 pm Mister Micawber, would you join the discussion? Happened or had happened? Why? |
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| Thank you anyway.In China there is a tool called QQ with which about several billion people can communicate with their friends or relatives when they are online. I think it quite useful because it is more convenient than emails. with it we can exchange ideas faster and save time. |
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Vaok I'm here quite often ;-)
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