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#2 (permalink) Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:23 am off of a cliff v.s. off a cliff |
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Hi,
I would go for 'off a cliff' but I can hear Frank Sinatra singing: 'I can't take my eyes off of you...' probably because 'off you' wouldn't scan here!
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#3 (permalink) Sat Nov 10, 2007 13:35 pm off of a cliff v.s. off a cliff |
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| Alan wrote: |
| probably because 'off you' wouldn't scan here! |
I wonder what that means. :? _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#4 (permalink) Sat Nov 10, 2007 13:56 pm off of a cliff v.s. off a cliff |
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It means that "off you" wouldn't fit into the song. It wouldn't work with the rhythm of the song as one syllable would be missing.
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#5 (permalink) Sat Nov 10, 2007 14:18 pm off of a cliff v.s. off a cliff |
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Hi, Alan Many thanks for your help !
| Yankee wrote: |
| I wonder what that means. :? |
Hi, Amy
That puzzled me too :) So I had to resort to the dictionary and found the meaning, but now I see that this meaning Alan had intended is not very popular among native speakers. |
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Lost_Soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:17 pm off of a cliff v.s. off a cliff |
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Hi LS
I would think of scan in this sort of 'metrical context' more with the meaning of 'analyze' rather than simply 'fit'. Of course, the word 'scan' has a number of other meanings as well. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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