|
|
#2 (permalink) Fri Nov 23, 2007 16:46 pm why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
'Why' is not the best question when it comes to English, Vaok.
While 'a dream that had come true' would be grammatically correct, the set phrase is 'a dream come true'. |
|
Conchita Language Coach

Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 2826 Location: Madrid, Spain
|
|
#3 (permalink) Fri Nov 23, 2007 23:47 pm why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
| There's just one thing I'd like to add, namely: not only is "dream come true" a set expression, but it is also perfectly correct from the grammatical point of view, because, as I'm sure you know, the verb "come" is irregular (come - came,come) whose "infinitive" form is identical to "past participle". Here the expression "to come true" (which means "to materialize, become a reality, become fulfilled" is used with the verb in the "past participle" form by analogy with "girls gone wild" or "teacher turned gangster". In other words, nothing to be surprised or puzzled by, because in this case everything makes perfect sense, even though in language it does not have to be this way. |
|
Hewhocares I'm new here and I like it ;-)
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 17
|
 |
#4 (permalink) Sat Nov 24, 2007 0:01 am why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
I'd be happier with a dream come true.
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Present Simple |
|
Alan Co-founder

Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 15696 Location: UK
|
 |
#5 (permalink) Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:19 am why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
| Alan wrote: |
I'd be happier with a dream true.
Alan |
Oh dear. Have you Brits now decided to start eliminating certain participles instead of eliminating the article 'a'? :wink: :lol: _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
|
Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 8325 Location: USA
|
 |
#6 (permalink) Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:54 am why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
To Amy: nail on the head, actually :lol:
To Alan: where is your consistency: how about discussing language matters that matter - that's how you phrased it. Dream come true is the core that matters, while the indefinite article may be replaced by, say, a possessive pronoun (my/his dream come true) or an adjective a longtime/coveted/cherished, etc. dream come true or even the definite article: the dream of my/his/her life come true. So the article is irrelevant here, Alan, in contrast to the "in a sense that/in the sense that" question. :wink: |
|
Hewhocares I'm new here and I like it ;-)
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 17
|
 |
#7 (permalink) Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:27 am why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
a set phrase
I see. thank you very much! |
|
Vaok I'm here quite often ;-)
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 238
|
 |
#8 (permalink) Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:30 am why "it was a dream come true"? |
|
|
Hi,
Oh dear indeed. I should have said: a drean come true, naughty me!
If you care, hewho,who said anything about articles being irrelevant? 'A dream come true' uses 'a' to mean 'one', doesn't it?
Alan _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Progressive Forms |
|
Alan Co-founder

Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 15696 Location: UK
|
 |
|
Tom I'm a Communicator ;-)
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 2109
|
 |
|
| One matter about conditional and "But For" | what does 'running for their lives' mean? |