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Could you please explain this passage for me... #1 (permalink) Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:52 pm   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

Hi, I have been struggling with this passage for hours.Please don’t think I’m lazy… I used all kinds of dictionary, asked my friends, but I didn’t succeed. Can you help me …
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The following passages are excerpted from Abraham Lincoln’s two inaugural addresses. The first was given in 1861, before the Civil War began. The second was delivered in 1865 as the fighting between North (anti-slavery) and South(pro-slavery) raged. (1865 was the final year of the Civil War.)

Passage 1

One section of our country believes slavery is RIGHT, and ought to be extended, while the other believes it is WRONG, and ought not to be extended. This is the only substantial dispute. The fugitive-slave clause of the Constitution, and the law for the suppression of the foreign slave-trade, are each as well enforced, perhaps, as any law can ever be in a community where the moral sense of the people imperfectly supports the law itself. The great body of the people abide by the dry legal obligation in both cases, and a few break over in each. This, I think, cannot be perfectly cured; and it would be worse in both cases AFTER the separation of the sections than BEFORE. The foreign slave-trade, now imperfectly suppressed, would be ultimately revived, without restriction, in one section, while fugitive slaves, now only partially surrendered, would not be surrendered at all by the other.

Physically speaking, we cannot separate.We cannot remove our respective sections from each other, nor build an impassable wall between them. A husband and wife may be divorced, and go out of the presence and beyond the reach of each other; but the different parts of our country cannot do this. They cannot but remain face to face, and intercourse, either amicable or hostile, must continue between them. Is it possible, then, to make that intercourse more advantageous or more satisfactory after separation than before? Can aliens make treaties easier than friends can make laws? Can treaties be more faithfully enforced between aliens than laws can among friends? Suppose you go to war, you cannot fight always; and when, after much loss on both sides, and no gain on either, you cease fighting, the identical old questions as to terms of intercourse are again upon you.

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it.Whenever they shall grow
weary of the existing government, they can exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL right of amending it, or their REVOLUTIONARY right to dismember or overthrow it. I cannot be ignorant of the fact that many worthy and patriotic citizens are desirous of having the national Constitution amended.While I make no recommendation of amendments, I fully recognize the rightful authority of the people over the whole subject, to be exercised in either of the modes prescribed in the instrument itself; and I should, under existing circumstances, favor rather than oppose a fair opportunity being afforded the people to act upon it. I will venture to add that to me the convention mode seems preferable, in that it allows amendments to originate with the people themselves, instead of only permitting them to take or reject propositions originated by others not especially chosen for the purpose, and which might not be precisely such as they would wish to either accept or refuse. I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution—which mendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied Constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.


1) What does “fugitive-slave clause” mean ? Since I’m not American, I can’t understand it. How does it contrast with the suppression of slave trade?

2) What does “imperfectly supports the law itself” mean?

3) What does “cases” refer to ? I don’t understand. There are two sides: in favor or against slavery? What is “case” ? What does “a few break over in each” ? I guess “a few” refers to Americans, but what does “break over” mean?

4) What does “this” refer to ? What about “both cases”?

5) I have no idea about the last sentence of paragraph 1. But maybe the answer of above questions will later help me understand it?

Thanks a lot.
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Could you please explain this passage for me... #2 (permalink) Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:35 am   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

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One section of our country believes slavery is RIGHT, and ought to be extended, while the other believes it is WRONG, and ought not to be extended. This is the only substantial dispute. The the part of a sentence in the Constitution that provides for the return of slaves who have run away, and the law for the suppression of the foreign slave-trade, are each as well enforced, perhaps, as any law can ever be in a community where the moral sense of the people doesn't really believe in or accept that law. The great body of the people abide by the dry legal obligation in both situations, and a few people break the law in each situation. This way of dealing with the law, I think, cannot be perfectly cured; and it would be worse in both situations AFTER the country has divided in two than BEFORE. The importation of slaves from other countries, which is not prevented very well now, would finally start up again without any limits in one part of the country. Meanwhile, in the other part of the country, nobody would ever return any slaves that have run away.


Bits of the language also confuse me a little, such as "a few break over in each", but I'm sure I've given you the correct sense of what Lincoln wrote.
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Could you please explain this passage for me... #3 (permalink) Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:44 am   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

Thanks, Jamie.

But I still don't understand that section of the US Constitution.
What does "that part of a sentence in the Constitution that provides for the return of slaves who have run away" mean ?
"provide for" means "to prepare" and maybe "to make it possible for something to be done". But I find it doesn't make sense in the sentence: runaway slaves never want to go back ???
Can you explain this for me ?

The second thing I don't understand is "cases" or "situations". Can you tell me what are the two cases here ?
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Could you please explain this passage for me... #4 (permalink) Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:34 am   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

It means that if a slave escapes and flees to another state, someone can catch him and return him to the state he came from, and to his owner. There were people called "slave catchers" who chased them. Slaves would generally run north, sometimes crossing into Canada. So a slave might run from Tennessee to Michigan, and a slave catcher could apprehend him in Michigan and take him back to his home state. The constitution at that time allowed this, I guess. However as resistance to slavery increased in the North, people in the free states didn't cooperate with this law. So when a slave catcher chased a slave to Michigan, he'd very likely find the people of Michigan catching him instead, and protecting the slave.

You have to understand that each state in the US has different laws, so without a federal law intervening, the states can do pretty much anything they want. For example, when a criminal runs from one state to another, the state he came from has to request that the other state send him back. The states usually cooperate, but they don't have to, and sometimes they don't.
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Could you please explain this passage for me... #5 (permalink) Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:38 am   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

I see.
Does "imperfectly support the law itself" refer to the face that in US, there is hardly any law that EVERY people accept, and that ANY law will divide the people ?
Am I right ?
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Could you please explain this passage for me... #6 (permalink) Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:55 pm   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

sympathy wrote:
I see.
Does "imperfectly support the law itself" refer to the face that in US, there is hardly any law that EVERY people accept, and that ANY law will divide the people ?
Am I right ?

No, that's wrong. Americans are unusual that they USUALLY accept the law, and following the law is closely connected to their moral feelings. Your text deals with an unusual time in history, when there was a truly immoral law, and people did not accept it, because it helped to perpetuate slavery. By "the law itself", Lincoln meant "that specific law that I am talking about."

Do NOT draw ANY parallels between the situation Lincoln was writing about and the situation today! Nothing similar exists in the US today.

Where are you, by the way?
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Could you please explain this passage for me... #7 (permalink) Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:32 am   Could you please explain this passage for me...
 

Thanks so much Jamie. Now I understand the first paragraph.

By the way, I'm from Vietnam.
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