Google
English-Test.net
Find penpals and make new friends today!
 
appropriate; noble
becoming
delicious
paramount
constant
full quiz correct answer
 
Username
Password
 Remember me? 
Search   Album   FAQ   Memberlist   Profile   Private messages   Register   Log in 

Meaning of "that said"



 
ESL/EFL Worksheets and Handouts for Students Printable, photocopiable, clearly structured
Designed for teachers and individual learners
For use in a classroom, at home, on your PC
ESL Forum | English Teacher Explanations (ESL Tests)
walk the dog? | Meaning of "stand apart from"
listening exercisestell a friend
Message
Author
Meaning of "that said" #1 (permalink) Mon Jan 24, 2005 20:40 pm   Meaning of "that said"
 

Test No. incompl/inter-9 "Say/Tell", question 3

That ........., they walked out of the room in total silence.

(a) told
(b) said
(c) telling
(d) saying

Test No. incompl/inter-9 "Say/Tell", answer 3

That said, they walked out of the room in total silence.

Correct answer: (b) said

Your answer was: incorrect
That told, they walked out of the room in total silence.
_________________________

What is the difference?

joriens
joriens
Guest





Meaning of that said #2 (permalink) Mon Jan 24, 2005 21:04 pm   Meaning of that said
 

That said is a commonly used phrase while that told is not.

TOEFL listening discussions: A conversation between a student and a university service representative
Torsten
Learning Coach
Torsten Daerr

Joined: 25 Sep 2003
Posts: 14492
Location: EU

In this story you'll learn how to use the English articlesEnglish grammar exercises — improve your English knowledge and vocabulary skillsAre you a native speaker of English? Then you should read this!Learn how to explore English words! Subscribe to free email English course
Meaning of that said #3 (permalink) Thu May 04, 2006 16:02 pm   Meaning of that said
 

Torsten wrote:
That said is a commonly used phrase while that told is not.


What does "that said" means?
Irena
New Member


Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 1

That said #4 (permalink) Thu May 04, 2006 17:19 pm   That said
 

Hi irena,

That said means after you've said that. In other words it has the idea that something is accepted and you can now go on to a new subject.

Alan
_________________
English as a Second Language
You can read my ESL story Present Simple
Alan
Co-founder
Alan Townend

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
Posts: 13887
Location: UK

Meaning of "that said" #5 (permalink) Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:06 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

sorry sir, but I guess you're wrong. I think it always comes in the beginning of a concessive clause meaning yet, but...etc
e.g:
The Interpreter" would have more current-events clout if it dealt with specific issues in a real African country, rather than generic troubles in an imaginary nation. That said, the movie takes what amounts to a daring position in today's ideological climate
Awatef Alaa
New Member


Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Posts: 1

Meaning of "that said" #6 (permalink) Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:41 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

I can only repeat: 'That said' means 'having said that'. In other words you use the construction to suggest that although what you (the writer) have said is taken for granted/accepted, you wish to add something else.

A
_________________
English as a Foreign Language
You can read my EFL story Progressive Forms
Alan
Co-founder
Alan Townend

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
Posts: 13887
Location: UK

Meaning of "that said" #7 (permalink) Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:58 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

I agree with Awatef alaa.
Timtak
I'm new here and I like it ;-)


Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 15
Location: Japan

Meaning of "that said" #8 (permalink) Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:19 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

Can you give us more examples about "That said" to help understand?
In addition, "That said" and "That being said", are they similar in meaning?
I met a sentence like this: That being said, I do love what he's done with that lawn.
Waiting for your help.

Clara
Clara
I'm new here and I like it ;-)


Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 24
Location: China

Meaning of "that said" #9 (permalink) Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:42 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

English is a very difficult language. That said, there are many opportunities to learn English since it is spoken all over the world.

That said, means (to me), "While that (the preceeding is true) the converse (which follows) is also true;"

Or "While accepting the aftorementioned, it is also true that,"

The following may not directly contradict but at least qualify the aforementioned.

It is very similar in meaning to "That being said," which is a little more formal and perhaps a touch softer in the extent of the contradiction that it introduces.

There is are similar phrases in Japanese, I think: "とは言っても” "とは言えるが”
Timtak
I'm new here and I like it ;-)


Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 15
Location: Japan

Meaning of "that said" #10 (permalink) Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:23 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

Alan wrote:
'That said' means 'having said that'. In other words you use the construction to suggest that although what you (the writer) have said is taken for granted/accepted, you wish to add something else.

Timtak wrote:
That said, means (to me), "While that (the preceeding is true) the converse (which follows) is also true;"

Or "While accepting the aftorementioned, it is also true that,"


I agree with Timtak's and Alan's versions.

I've just heard one more example on one of the ESL podcasts.

Here is the transcript:

"The headline figures, except for inflation, are all great. Overall GDP is up 12%, growth in consumption is robust. But inflation is hitting basic food prices pretty hard.
For example, the CPI in Shanghai is up 8% on last year. That said, so far it's mainly affecting lower income brackets".

The person speaking is responsible for sales of nonessentials (luxury). And he finishes his speach with intent that inflation does not affect their customers, because they are all in middle to high income brackets.

So in this example "that said" is in much equivalent to "nevertheless". And Timtak's and Alan's versions also suit.
Andriy
New Member


Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 1

Meaning of "that said" #11 (permalink) Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:14 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

Andriy,
I agree with you.
That said, in my opinion, following the information give before so which are the evidences show the clause after " that said " is true.
Pmoon
I'm new here and I like it ;-)


Joined: 31 May 2009
Posts: 23

Meaning of "that said" #12 (permalink) Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:43 am   Meaning of "that said"
 

but I wonder that the clause after " that said " is only the private writer. In fact, it may be not true.
could you explain for me.
thank you very much.
Pmoon
I'm new here and I like it ;-)


Joined: 31 May 2009
Posts: 23

Display posts from previous:   
walk the dog? | Meaning of "stand apart from"
ESL Forum | English Teacher Explanations (ESL Tests) All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1
Latest topics on English Forums
Difference between skating and skiingMeaning of the phrase "make people's day"need doing vs. needs to doMeaning of "policy holder"A question for native speakers of English.What does 'hide' mean?What is a check-out lane?What does "we don't get to pick them" mean?an you imagine what our world would be likeCould you please explain what this sentence is about?Whats the meaning of until and so that?What's the meaning of batting an eyelid?Why eight degrees below zero? (temperature)

 
You can post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Subscribe to FREE email English course
First name E-mail