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meaning of Truism #1 (permalink) Mon Dec 31, 2007 0:31 am   meaning of Truism
 

"Consider the tune, not the voice; consider the words, not the tune; consider the meaning, not the words." -Bhutanese Proverb

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Truism... #2 (permalink) Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:47 am   Truism...
 

Hi Gopal,

How can we identify the tune, the words, and - most importantly - the meaning?

In other words, what helps us get a clear picture of a speaker's mental concepts or even objects of the real world he tries to refer to without being led astray by arbitrariness?

I must admit that I'm more into voices and tunes 8)
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Truism... #3 (permalink) Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:14 am   Truism...
 

To me, it's all in the eyes. Like they always say, the eyes are the window to the soul. :wink:
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Truism... #4 (permalink) Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:39 am   Truism...
 

Hi Ralf and Nina,

First, I want to wish you a very Happy New Year! :)

Well, let me break down the whole thing this way (though I know you already know it):

Consider the tune, not the voice:

Sometimes I listen to songs from foreign languages such as Chinese or Japanese (I don't really exactly know the languages of such songs) and love to listen to them not because of what they sing but because of the tune or music they play in the songs. This music enters my mind and gives me an idea of the song that I am listening to though the voice is all Greek to me.

So, it sums up to: First flow with the tune! :P

Consider the words, not the tune:

And when I get myself well acquainted with the tune I try to figure out the words which are more important as they convey the message.

So, it sums up to: Focus on the words! :shock:

Consider the meaning, not the words:

And finally here I come to understand the meaning hidden in those words because words will remain only sounds if I can't get their meanings.

So, it sums up to: Get to the root or meaning!

Well, it all means to me: Feel the soul – the real element!

So, now the question is how to do that? And the answer is very simple- Try to perceive objects as they are and not as what other people say about them and again we have a problem: You will be deceived by what you see! :twisted:

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Truism... #5 (permalink) Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:48 am   Truism...
 

Yes, Nina. It's all in the eyes of the person you are talking to. And as i said: "Feel the soul", so, you have already got the way- "The eyes are the window to the soul"! :D

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Truism... #6 (permalink) Tue Jan 01, 2008 23:29 pm   Truism...
 

Hi Gopal,

Happy New Year to you too!

Do you know the woman in your picture? She looks like Courtney Love, Curt Cobain's (the dead singer of Nirvana) former wifer and singer of a band called Hole.

All the best!
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Truism... #7 (permalink) Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:57 am   Truism...
 

Hi Ralf,

No, I don't know about her. But do you know the meaning of "Nirvana?" This term is used in the world of spirituality. Nirvana means- getting rid of the recycle of birth and death. As they say people who die, enter a new life. And Nirvana is that state attaining which one doesn't enter any new life- one attains an eternal life after the death and is not reborn on the earth.

Any ways, have a nice time!

Gopal.

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Hi Gopal,

Happy New Year to you too!

Do you know the woman in your picture? She looks like Courtney Love, Curt Cobain's (the dead singer of Nirvana) former wifer and singer of a band called Hole.

All the best!
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Truism... #8 (permalink) Wed Jan 02, 2008 21:52 pm   Truism...
 

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Truism... #9 (permalink) Wed Jan 02, 2008 21:54 pm   Truism...
 

indiansoil wrote:
But do you know the meaning of "Nirvana?" This term is used in the world of spirituality. Nirvana means- getting rid of the recycle of birth and death. As they say people who die, enter a new life. And Nirvana is that state attaining which one doesn't enter any new life- one attains an eternal life after the death and is not reborn on the earth.


Yes, Nirvana - that which can only be fathomed by own experience and by envisioning your existence detached from mortality. Buddhists reach Nirvana as a result of intensive meditative training, westerners after 9 pints and a few double shots.
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Truism... #10 (permalink) Thu Jan 03, 2008 18:14 pm   Truism...
 

I think that is Courtney Love. She is very pretty, but I wonder why she acted like she was drunk everytime I see her in a picture or on the TV. Later on I just think that was a part of being a rockstar's wife.
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