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#2 (permalink) Thu Jan 03, 2008 19:31 pm Phrase "the monarchs have come here in the Fall" |
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| Ofriendragon wrote: |
| In the Fall obviously refers to a past time, why have come---> a present time tense is used? |
In the fall (the F should be small) doesn't refer to a past time. It refers to a season that comes every year.
The present perfect tense is used in that sentence because that is the tense we use for things that began in the past and are still true now.
So, when we say that the monarchs have always come in the fall, it means that every year, even this year, the monarchs come in the autumn. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:06 am Phrase "the monarchs have come here in the Fall" |
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Hi, Jamie
In the original sentence the season fall does not refer to any particular season in the past, right? (unlike the fall of 1945) But we still use the definite article before fall. My question is - can we omit tre article, e.g. the monarchs have come here in Fall? Does the meaning change after the omission?
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#4 (permalink) Fri Jan 04, 2008 15:55 pm Phrase "the monarchs have come here in the Fall" |
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| In the fall (the F should be small) doesn't refer to a past time. It refers to a season that comes every year. |
It seems tough to understand. Is the following sentence correct? He likes watching this drama on Sundays and I remember he has come here on Saturday. |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Jan 04, 2008 16:06 pm Phrase "the monarchs have come here in the Fall" |
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| Ofriendragon wrote: |
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| In the fall (the F should be small) doesn't refer to a past time. It refers to a season that comes every year. |
It seems tough to understand. Is the following sentence correct? He likes watching this drama on Sundays and I remember he has come here on Saturday. |
This means that at some unspecified time in the past -- once or maybe more than once -- he has come on Saturday. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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