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#2 (permalink) Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:55 am Relative pronouns |
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Hi,
Yes we are here. For more information relative pronouns, please read these explanations and stories by Alan Townend:
Grammar Lesson: Relative Pronoun http://www.english-test.net/lessons/21/index.html
TOEIC listening, photographs: Business team |
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#3 (permalink) Thu May 17, 2007 15:55 pm Relative pronouns |
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Defining and non-defining relative clauses Compare: «George, who lives next door, always watches television.» «The couple who live next door always watch television.»
Hello, could you, please, explain me the difference between defining and non-defining relative clauses? I have read Alan's lesson about this subject, but somehow I still can not understand it. In the given examples which one is a defining relative clause?
Sentence Relative Compare: «He showed me a photo that upset me.» «He tore up the photo, which upset me.»
I don't understand this example from the lesson as well. I suspect it has something to do with defining and non-defining relative clauses. Why do we use that after a photo and which after the foto? |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:54 am Relative pronouns |
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Hello, could you, please, explain me the difference between defining and non-defining relative clauses? I have read Alan's lesson about this subject, but somehow I still can not understand it. In the given examples which one is a defining relative clause?
Sentence Relative Compare: «He showed me a photo that upset me.» «He tore up the photo, which upset me.»
I don't understand this example from the lesson as well. I suspect it has something to do with defining and non-defining relative clauses. Why do we use that after a photo and which after the photo?
Thanks a million! Sonia* |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:02 am Relative pronouns |
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| Sonia* wrote: |
Hello, could you, please, explain me the difference between defining and non-defining relative clauses? I have read Alan's lesson about this subject, but somehow I still can not understand it. In the given examples which one is a defining relative clause?
Sentence Relative Compare: «He showed me a photo that upset me.» «He tore up the photo, which upset me.»
I don't understand this example from the lesson as well. I suspect it has something to do with defining and non-defining relative clauses. Why do we use that after a photo and which after the photo?
Thanks a million! Sonia* |
Hi Sonia,
A defining relative describes the noun immediately before it as in:
He showed me a photo that upset me. In other words it was the photo itself that upset me.
In this sentence there is a non defining relative:
He tore up the photo, which upset me.
This means it wasn't the photo itself that upset me but I was upset because he tore it up. 'Which' is preceded by a comma in that sentence and refers to the action in the sentence before and not the noun 'photo'.
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#7 (permalink) Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:12 am Relative pronouns |
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Hello! Alan Sir,
Many thanks for the fast reply. The concept is clear to me now.
Best Wishes! |
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#8 (permalink) Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:14 am Relative pronouns |
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Thanks a million for your kind help!
Sonia* Best wishes! |
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