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Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...)



 
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Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...) #1 (permalink) Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:30 pm   Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...)		  
Hi, can you help me with this passage

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As Xenophanes recognized as long ago as the sixth century before Christ, whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain that man makes gods in his. The gods of Greek mythology first appear in the writings of Homer and Hesiod, and, from the character and actions of these picturesque and, for the most part, friendly beings, we get some idea of the men who made them and brought them to Greece.

But ritual is more fundamental than mythology, and the study of Greek ritual during recent years has shown that, beneath the belief or skepticism with which the Olympians were regarded, lay an older magic, with traditional rites for the promotion of fertility by the celebration of the annual cycle of life and death, and the propitiation of unfriendly ghosts, gods or demons. Some such survivals were doubtless widespread, and, prolonged into classical times, probably made the substance of Eleusinian and Orphic mysteries. Against this dark and dangerous background arose Olympic mythology on the one hand and early philosophy and science on the other.

In classical times the need of a creed higher than the Olympian was felt, and Aeschylus, Sophocles and Plato finally evolved from the pleasant but crude polytheism the idea of a single, supreme and righteous Zeus. But the decay of Olympus led to a revival of old and the invasion of new magic cults among the people, while some philosophers were looking to a vision of the uniformity of nature under divine and universal law.

From Sir William Cecil Dampier, A Shorter History of Science, ©1957, Meridian Books.

1) What does 'image' mean ? What does the sentence " .... make man in his own image ..." mean ? Why can "his" begin with an uppercase letter (H) ?

2)What does the sentence "ritual is more fundamental than mythology" refer to ? What does "magic" mean ? What are "traditional rites," "promotion of fertility," and "survivals".

3)Do you get the gist of the first two paragraphs ? I'm blank about them. Can you explain it for me ?

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Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...) #2 (permalink) Mon Jan 14, 2008 14:06 pm   Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...)		  
The Bible says that God made man in his own image and likeness. At a primitive level, this means that human beings "look like" God. However, God is not a physical being, so it means that the human souls created by God have a nature similar to his (but not as perfect). The author says that whether or not what the Bible says is true (that God made human beings to be similar to Him), it is clear that when human beings make up gods, the ones they imagine are similar to humans.

"His" is spelled with a capital letter, because it's traditional in English and other European languages to begin all pronouns referring to God with capital letters, so you get He, His, You, etc.

"Ritual is more fundamental than mythology" means that people perform religious and other rituals long after they may have stopped believing in the ideas (or sometimes myths) that underlie the rituals. Many atheists celebrate Christmas, for example. You can find the word "magic" in a dictionary. "Traditional rites" are traditional rituals. "Promotion of fertility" means encouraging people to have children. "Survivals" here means ideas and practices that remain (survive) after a society's beliefs have changed.

The first paragraph says that if you look at the stories about the Greek gods and their behavior, you can learn a lot about the Greeks who thought up these stories and imagined these gods.

The second paragraph talks about old magic and myths that survived from very ancient times. It says that the Greek religion and mythology developed on their basis, but that so did the beginnings of modern science.
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Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...) #3 (permalink) Tue Jan 15, 2008 17:57 pm   Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...)		  
Hi, thank you.
But I'm sorry that I still can't get the second paragraph.
Can you explain what "fundamental" means here ? It means "earlier", or "more important", or what ?
How about "older magic"
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Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...) #4 (permalink) Tue Jan 15, 2008 18:32 pm   Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...)		  
"Fundamental" means basic. "Older magic" means magic that is older.
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Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...) #5 (permalink) Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:05 am   Obscure passage (whether or not God made man in His own image, it is certain...)		  
Thanks Jamie, I understand it now
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