Socialism vs. Capitalism

[Yankee]

[Foah]

Hi Amy, hi Torsten,

I´m pretty delighted that you enjoyed my little "gemurksten" joke. :)

I tend to agree with Amy´s saying that there probably isn´t any accredited definition of "murks". Additional, I´m sure that several persons do have several imaginations of it. So, I can tell you mine only:

Murks=something that is done/made in a quite unprofessional way and as a matter of that don´t really work. Perhaps a look at the Marx-Brothers`s behave and the results could give a certain imagination. :D

Michael
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[Yankee]

Hi Michael

That's basically the way I would understand the German word "Murks". To me, "Murks" is a well-known, but informal, German word. I always got the sense of "unprofessionally done work which was so badly done that it would either not function at all or was a guarantee of problems in the very near future". To me, it also suggests incompetence that is so obvious that anyone with half a brain should be able to identify the work as "gemurkst". 8)
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[Torsten]

Hi Amy,

In checking the word again it turned out that there is only one online dictionary that has an entry on "murks" and that's the Urban Dictionary.

TOEIC listening, question-response: How many employees are in your division?

[Foah]

Hi Torsten,

Can you please share the definition of the Urban Dictionary to us? I´m very interested in it.

Michael
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[Torsten]

Hi Michael,

The Urban Dictionary definition contains words I'd rather not use here on the forum. Just type "urban dictionary murks" into Google and hit "search".

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[Foah]

Hi Torsten,

well, I followed your suggestion and saw what you mean. S..t, you can´t offer/provide such an explanation on this serious site, can you?

By the way, might s..t be the correct English counterpart to murks?

However,

looking forward to more serious discussion here :wink:

Michael
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[Yankee]

Yes, I've seen the Urban Dictionary entry. I have no idea who the guy is who posted the definition, but I have to assume he has some sort of tie to Germany and/or Germans. Perhaps he's an expat American living in Germany; maybe he's even a German. Who knows.

The definition given ("sh-t") works fairly well as a one-word translation. 'BS' might also be used, I suppose. Still, those words in English don't quite capture the meaning and usage of the German word -- at least not in my mind. 8)
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[Jamie (K)]

If there was a grammatical mistake, it isn't mine. It was made by Oxford University Press.

[Prezbucky]

Capitalism favors liberty; Socialism favors equality.

People are not equally intelligent, driven, lucky, etc... in Capitalism, some rise and some fall, because people are free to rise or fall on their own.

Under Socialism, it's difficult to succeed given the heavy tax burden... but you're also not likely to starve. Though the Soviets had such a problem with getting people to go into business (where is the incentive?) that people had a hard time buying something as common as bread.

I prefer Capitalism because its hands-off approach to private enterprise ensures that entrepreneurs will apply their trade, which means more jobs, better products, lower prices, etc. Plus... overall, I simply favor freedom over forced equality. When the cream is allowed to rise to the top, jobs and investment opportunities are created for everyone else.
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[Underdog]

socialism?? one bad idea that got millions killed~~

capitalism?? also a bad idea, because only the rich can invest with a lot of capital. so the poor will be poorer

am i right?

history has proved that socialism can only appear in books as an utopian theory.
even China now is going to capitalism~

[Jamie (K)]

[Underdog]