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Hi Michael
That's basically the way I would understand the German word "Murks". To me, "Murks" is a well-known, but informal, German word. I always got the sense of "unprofessionally done work which was so badly done that it would either not function at all or was a guarantee of problems in the very near future". To me, it also suggests incompetence that is so obvious that anyone with half a brain should be able to identify the work as "gemurkst". 
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| Thu Jan 31, 2008 20:35 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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Hi Amy,
In checking the word again it turned out that there is only one online dictionary that has an entry on "murks" and that's the Urban Dictionary.
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| Thu Jan 31, 2008 21:03 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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Hi Torsten,
Can you please share the definition of the Urban Dictionary to us? I´m very interested in it.
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| Thu Jan 31, 2008 21:12 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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Hi Michael,
The Urban Dictionary definition contains words I'd rather not use here on the forum. Just type "urban dictionary murks" into Google and hit "search".
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| Thu Jan 31, 2008 22:05 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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Hi Torsten,
well, I followed your suggestion and saw what you mean. S..t, you can´t offer/provide such an explanation on this serious site, can you?
By the way, might s..t be the correct English counterpart to murks?
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looking forward to more serious discussion here 
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| Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:48 am Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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Yes, I've seen the Urban Dictionary entry. I have no idea who the guy is who posted the definition, but I have to assume he has some sort of tie to Germany and/or Germans. Perhaps he's an expat American living in Germany; maybe he's even a German. Who knows.
The definition given ("sh-t") works fairly well as a one-word translation. 'BS' might also be used, I suppose. Still, those words in English don't quite capture the meaning and usage of the German word -- at least not in my mind.
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| Sat Feb 02, 2008 14:12 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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| SkiIucK wrote: | | Jamie (K) wrote: | communism
each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
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Hi SkiLuck,
Are you complaining the definition of the communism or the grammatical errors in above post?
Because I think some mistake was made in term of the definition.
This is just my perception, I apologize if this is not right.
As far as I'm concerned, Communist applied the system that,person is not paid regard their abilities, but every one get the equal paid.
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| Sat Feb 02, 2008 14:19 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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| SkiIucK wrote: | | Jamie (K) wrote: | communism
each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
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Hi SkiLuck,
Are you complaining the definition of the communism or the grammatical errors in above post?
Because I think some mistake was made in term of the definition.
This is just my perception, I apologize if this is not right.
Person is not paid regard their abilities, but every one get the equal paid.
Any body, could you tell me how to delete this post, I post it twist unintentionally. I can only find the edit button, not kill button. Many thanks
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| Sat Feb 02, 2008 14:49 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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| Sun Feb 03, 2008 22:15 pm Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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Capitalism favors liberty; Socialism favors equality.
People are not equally intelligent, driven, lucky, etc... in Capitalism, some rise and some fall, because people are free to rise or fall on their own.
Under Socialism, it's difficult to succeed given the heavy tax burden... but you're also not likely to starve. Though the Soviets had such a problem with getting people to go into business (where is the incentive?) that people had a hard time buying something as common as bread.
I prefer Capitalism because its hands-off approach to private enterprise ensures that entrepreneurs will apply their trade, which means more jobs, better products, lower prices, etc. Plus... overall, I simply favor freedom over forced equality. When the cream is allowed to rise to the top, jobs and investment opportunities are created for everyone else.
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| Fri Feb 08, 2008 0:48 am Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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socialism?? one bad idea that got millions killed~~
capitalism?? also a bad idea, because only the rich can invest with a lot of capital. so the poor will be poorer
am i right?
history has proved that socialism can only appear in books as an utopian theory.
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| Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:09 am Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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| underdog wrote: | | capitalism?? also a bad idea, because only the rich can invest with a lot of capital. so the poor will be poorer |
Usually, under capitalism, when the rich invest their capital, the poor get richer. |
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| Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:59 am Socialism vs. Capitalism |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | underdog wrote: | | capitalism?? also a bad idea, because only the rich can invest with a lot of capital. so the poor will be poorer |
Usually, under capitalism, when the rich invest their capital, the poor get richer. |
really? i don't know much about politics. i would like to hear the reason why the poor would get richer.
right now, the only example i can think of is wal*mart, which is a bad one: cheap labour, no benefit, all the wealth is gathered by the boss family......... |
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