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Is omitting "would" in this sentence right?



 
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misleading use | Usage of the word "hopefully"
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Is omitting "would" in this sentence right? Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:39 am  Is omitting "would" in this sentence right?		  
Below is my friend's sentence. He took it as an example for me in an argument.
All the passengers in the Titanic ship never forget the disaster if they ever survived.
He explained: this is real in the past (anyone who survived now never forget), so we must omit "would" in this conditional sentence
However, I think it must be "would never forget" because, anyway, all the passengers in the Titanic died, including survivors of that disaster. The disaster happened in 1912 and it is normal to think that survivors now all died simple because of old age.
Would you kindly tell me your opinion?
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Is omitting "would" in this sentence right? Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:47 am  Is omitting "would" in this sentence right?		  
Ah, by the way, please turn back to my previous thread "Should it be "all passengers" or "all the passengers" in this". Another problem related to this has emerged and I need your help
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Is omitting "would" in this sentence right? Mon Feb 04, 2008 14:23 pm  Is omitting "would" in this sentence right?		  
Quote:
All the passengers in the Titanic ship never forget the disaster if they ever survived.
The entire sentence is quite oddly worded, so it's not really possible to simply say yes or no to the word 'would'. The sentence needs rewording.

To simply refer to the past, I'd suggest this wording:
None of the survivors of the Titanic ever forgot the disaster.

The following wording would basically be a "future in the past" usage. You might use this sort of wording if you are talking only/mainly about the events that took place in 1912, but want to add a little bit of information about the future (i.e. what would be true in the years after 1912):
None of the survivors of the Titanic would ever forget the disaster.

I hope that helps.
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Is omitting "would" in this sentence right? Mon Feb 04, 2008 15:51 pm  Is omitting "would" in this sentence right?		  
Yes, thank you. It really helps
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