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#2 (permalink) Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:55 am subvert vs undermine |
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. The first is of Latin origin; the second is from Middle or Old English. As such, 'subvert' has a sophisticated subtlely about it, while 'undermine' is more heavy-handed. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Thu Feb 07, 2008 20:48 pm subvert vs undermine |
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thanks micawber. undermine does sound a strong word.but then i should have been more specific...what i meant was,you routinely hear about,"he/she is "undermining" my authority', but u don't hear ..."subverting" my authority'....wondering if i can interchange them in this context.... |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Feb 07, 2008 22:08 pm subvert vs undermine |
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Hi Pebbles,
The trouble with English is that there are so many similar words in English coming from different languages that it's difficult to make a distinction. You are right in suggesting 'undermine authority' gives the sense of trying to weaken someone else's authority. 'Subvert' is a much more devious method of doing this and is used with expressions like 'subvert the course of justice' whereby somebody tries in an underhand way to stop a legal process following the usual path.
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Present Simple |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Feb 11, 2008 20:41 pm subvert vs undermine |
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thanks alan !
the difference is much clearer now.i was a bit confused earlier....but guess these distinctions make the language so much more richer. thanks again... |
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