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#2 (permalink) Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:40 am reported speech and have got |
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Hi,
I'm not quite sure what your objection is to 'have got' and what the connection is with reported speech. Technically the change from present to past is acceptable, isn't it?
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#3 (permalink) Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:59 am reported speech and have got |
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Hi Alan,
I don`t have any objection to "have got". I have an objection to "She said that she "had got" three children", or "He said that he "had got a new job". For me, correct would be, "She said that she "had" three children", or "He said that he "had" a new job."
Thanks, Loretta |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:38 am reported speech and have got |
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Hi, Loretta I think I know what point you're trying to make. There's 2 meanings to have got - 1)it means have and 2)it is the perfect infinitive of get When you turn direct speech into indirect one, you must change have got to had if you use it in meaning 1 and to had got in the case of meaning 2
I.e. I've got a pencil => I said that I had a pencil This rule is in my textbook on English. |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:45 am reported speech and have got |
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Hi Alex,
Thanks! Thatīs exactly what I need to hear. Could you give me the name of this textbook? Whatīs your native language?
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#6 (permalink) Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:56 am reported speech and have got |
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Hi Loretta,
We'll clearly have to differ on this as to my mind changing 'have got' to simply 'have' when put into indirect speech also changes the meaning.
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#7 (permalink) Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:55 am reported speech and have got |
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Hi Alan,
Mmmm, maybe we just donīt understand each other...
I canīt make sense out of a sentence such as "She had got three children". |
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#8 (permalink) Wed Feb 13, 2008 16:44 pm reported speech and have got |
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Hi Loretta,
1) 'She said that she had three children'. - 'had' means 'to possess'. 2) 'She said that she had got a new job'. - 'had got' means 'to obtain'. So in 1) we use 'had' and in 2) we use 'had got'.( Unit 27 'Advanced Grammar in Use' by Martin Hewings.)
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