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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine



 
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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine #1 (permalink) Tue Feb 19, 2008 21:21 pm   the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine
 

Hi,

Now that I know the widely known abusive saying "...or I'll stick it where the sun don't shine", would you mind telling me why on earth we use "don't" instead of "doesn't" in that phrase?
has this phrase become idiomatic, or is it just a mistake and the right way to say it is "where the sun doesn't shine" ?

Thanks in advance!
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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine #2 (permalink) Tue Feb 19, 2008 21:56 pm   the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine
 

Hi Alex

Using do rather than does in the third person singular is a slang usage. This usage often comes across as uneducated or unrefined. Don't you think it somehow fitting that such an abusive expression would also use "unrefined" grammar? :wink:
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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine #3 (permalink) Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:02 am   the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine
 

Alex, come to the US South and you'll hear such phrases a lot.

(many folks here mix up "doesn't" and "don't" all the time -- the full manifestation is such that "doesn't" is all but forgotten to some)
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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine #4 (permalink) Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:03 am   the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine
 

You'd hear things like:

- He don't care about her.
- Kenseth don't have a prayer at winning this race.
- She don't like me.

etc.
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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine #5 (permalink) Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:23 am   the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine
 

Hi, Amy & Tom
Glad to hear from you, guys and thank you for your replies ! :)
Yeah, I agree that when a person says such things, the grammar rules are not an issue anymore.
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the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine #6 (permalink) Mon Oct 05, 2009 18:11 pm   the sun don't shine v.s. the sun doesn't shine
 

Hi,,,I think this phrase was used in a song named "No matter what" , is the slang used in song frequently?Thank you.
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