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#2 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:59 am What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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. 1-- militant = aggressive; showing a fighting disposition without self-seeking 2-- No, the grammar of the sentence requires the adverb. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 17:13 pm What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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Quote: 2-- No, the grammar of the sentence requires the adverb.
=> How about this: Some species of vegetation grow in fields and gardens such as weeds that choke off useful plants => If the above sentence is right, then why isn't "like" acceptable? _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#4 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 17:28 pm What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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Hi Ness
I believe you can not say "such like". It is either "like" or "such as"
They are very similar in meaning and I'm not good at distingushing the differences. I can try giving you some examples:
Can someone explain the differences between these two ways? For example
Teams would love to have a good player such as Michael Jordan Teams would love to have a good player like Michael Jordan |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:23 am What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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Teams would love to have a good player such as Michael Jordan Teams would love to have a good player like Michael Jordan |
I don't see any real difference in those 2 sentences, ched, but the original sentence does not offer us 'such'. It reads:
Some species of vegetation grow in fields and gardens as / (X) like weeds that choke off useful plants.
'Such as' does not work in this sentence either, for semantic reasons. Using 'like' or 'such as' makes 'weeds' an example of 'vegetation that grows in fields and gardens'... so what does that make 'useful plants'? The sentence becomes illogical.
The only solution is that 'some species of vegetation grow as (= in the manner of) weeds'; the sentence is not a comparison at all. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#6 (permalink) Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:16 am What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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'Such as' does not work in this sentence either, for semantic reasons. Using 'like' or 'such as' makes 'weeds' an example of 'vegetation that grows in fields and gardens'... so what does that make 'useful plants'? The sentence becomes illogical.
=> I totally agree that "as" is correct in that sentence. However, I don't agree with you that "such as" and "like" are not acceptable here. Yes, using 'like' or 'such as' makes 'weeds' an example of 'vegetation that grows in fields and gardens', so what's wrong with that? It means "weeds" are a kind of vegetation that grows in fields and gardens and chokes off useful plants
By the way, what do mean by saying "so what does that make 'useful plants'?" :O
Many thanks. Nessie. _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#7 (permalink) Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:37 am What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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| Yes, using 'like' or 'such as' makes 'weeds' an example of 'vegetation that grows in fields and gardens', so what's wrong with that? |
As I said, they do not work for semantic reasons. The sentence is not discussing the kinds of plants that grow in fields & gardens; it is discussing the kinds of habitat in which plants grow. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#8 (permalink) Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:52 am What is the meaning of "militant"? |
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Sorry, may be I'm too dumb, but I still can't understand... (+_+) _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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