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#2 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 13:17 pm Wage premium for knowing English |
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Have you considered the option that knowing English you may get the risk to answer to independent and get fire. Being just a little advance you understand and can't answer , and you are perfect American Dream Participant, Jan |
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#3 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 13:20 pm Wage premium for knowing English |
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| Jan wrote: |
Have you considered the option that knowing English you may get the risk to answer to independent and get fire. Being just a little advance you understand and can't answer , and you are perfect American Dream Participant, |
Can you explain it again? I'm sorry, but I didn't understand you. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 13:34 pm Wage premium for knowing English |
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Yes, it was a bit wrong,
Knowing to much it is specially in case of language a bit of risk . If you may participate in discussion you may also criticize, and been recognized after all as troublemaker. If you know foreign language just enough and keep your thoughts for yourself you may always pretend to be very intelligent etc etc... but unable to express yourself. Reads perfect job mate or employee .... don't you think... Jan |
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Jan I'm here quite often ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 14:20 pm Wage premium for knowing English |
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| I don't think keeping your mouth shut necessarily makes a person a good employee in the mind of his employer. I've been fired from jobs partly for being "too outspoken", but then some better company hired me partly because they wanted someone who was outspoken. A lot of employers don't like it when employees don't alert them to problems. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#6 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 15:03 pm Wage premium for knowing English |
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Should be like this but it isn't . Employers have fired people done something stupid what they have been warned about by sucked out employees and complain loudly why the have been convinced strong enough from stopping doing this. But a lot of times they explain strange way why after all they were right even when they were wrong. Bosses are same as we are not really good I am afraid... Keep you mouth shut it is very precious feature, more precious than any oratory gifts. Jan |
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Jan I'm here quite often ;-)
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#7 (permalink) Mon Mar 17, 2008 22:48 pm Wage premium for knowing English |
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I were an employer I would always choose employees who have fun developing their language skills and there a number of reasons for this. Word of mouth is by far the most effective advertising and promotion method. Any employee has their own private network of family, friends and acquaintances. It's very likely that one of the topics they discuss in their private conversations is their job. Now, if 'my' employees aren't able to express their thoughts clearly and effectively, they would create a rather negative image of our company.
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#8 (permalink) Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:55 am Wage premium for knowing English |
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Standard answer same as "J.Christ is most interesting person in the human history" etc , nobody would answer different , I like open -minded people , I like people who are able to say what they think ,I would employee a man according his professional skills. It is simple lie ... You dependent on them what you don't like , but you prefer yes talking (smart yes talking ,but yes talking) Jan |
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#9 (permalink) Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:52 am Wage premium for knowing English |
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| Jan, I think you've veered this topic a bit too far into your own personal obsessions. It was originally about the wage premium people get for knowing a foreign language well. |
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#10 (permalink) Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:38 am Wage premium for knowing English |
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Possibly, but my personal obsessions are as usually have fun, We live every day life lying a lot and forgetting even why we do these. I wanted to remind all of us why we lie about it. Really nothing special, people are every where judging without hesitation. Why should I be different. Language have to sides you may show yourself from some good one carefully learned and accepted or you may betray yourself (what is more often) I have seen people working without language skills on management level doing just fine, and brilliant students for ever nobodies because of lack of "right attitude". Just digression , nothing serious. Jan |
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| Hillarious stuff to ponder on :)) | Comment? No such. |