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an ability v.s. ability



 
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an ability v.s. ability #1 (permalink) Thu Mar 27, 2008 22:59 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
Hi, everybody !

I took these 2 sentences from an English exercise:
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1. He has considerable ability
2. He has a natural ability to play the piano

Could you tell me if in sentence 1 we can put the indefinite article a before the word "ability" and in sentence 2 the article a can be dropped?

Thanks a lot !
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an ability v.s. ability #2 (permalink) Thu Mar 27, 2008 23:08 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
well you cannot put an 'a' in front of considerable because it is not definite, you dont know exactly how much, and with a natural ability it is about one certain ability specified

btw i'm also a non-native speaker
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an ability v.s. ability #3 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:36 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
Hi, Traveller

Thanks for your thoughts. Smile
But to remove doubts from the matter, could a native English speaker have a whirl at it, please?
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an ability v.s. ability #4 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 13:58 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
The first sentence indicates that he is a capable person in general, and you couldn't put "a" before it.

In the second sentence, the person has the specific ability to play the piano -- therefore you use "a" -- but he may not be a capable person in general. There are some retarded people who are geniuses at playing the piano, for example, but in general they don't have a lot of ability.
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an ability v.s. ability #5 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 14:04 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
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well you cannot put an 'a' in front of considerable because it is not definite, you dont know exactly how much,


?He has a considerable sum of money hidden under the bed.
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an ability v.s. ability #6 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 14:07 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
Molly wrote:
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well you cannot put an 'a' in front of considerable because it is not definite, you dont know exactly how much,


?He has a considerable sum of money hidden under the bed.

It has nothing to do with the word "considerable". It's all about the noun that comes after it. Article usage is based on the noun, not on the adjective.
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an ability v.s. ability #7 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 14:16 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
Hi, Jamie

Thank you very much !
Jamie (K) wrote:
There are some retarded people who are geniuses at playing the piano, for example, but in general they don't have a lot of ability.


I just remembered a word for those people: idiot savants, right? Wink
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an ability v.s. ability #8 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 16:05 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
Jamie (K) wrote:
Molly wrote:
Quote:
well you cannot put an 'a' in front of considerable because it is not definite, you dont know exactly how much,


?He has a considerable sum of money hidden under the bed.

It has nothing to do with the word "considerable". It's all about the noun that comes after it. Article usage is based on the noun, not on the adjective.


Tell that to traveler.
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an ability v.s. ability #9 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 16:06 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
lost_soul wrote:
Hi, Jamie

Thank you very much !

Jamie (K) wrote:
There are some retarded people who are geniuses at playing the piano, for example, but in general they don't have a lot of ability.

I just remembered a word for those people: idiot savants, right? Wink

It is a mistake to think of such people as geniuses.
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an ability v.s. ability #10 (permalink) Fri Mar 28, 2008 16:54 pm   an ability v.s. ability		  
what does traveler need to know? i might have given an inadequate explanation, i should have used countable instead of definite, sorry!
and yes it refers to nouns
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