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Hi Nina and Yen, I've just browsed your conversation which is very interesting because it shows how too ESL speakers can share their experiences using English as a second language. Just one thing that caught my eye: the expression is use is 'it's anything but boring' rather than 'it's everything but boring'. Hope it's OK with you if I point out some of these things.
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| Wed Apr 02, 2008 16:21 pm Yen From Malaysia |
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I realized that mistake as soon as I put it up. But I wanted to see whether you'd point that out because if it sounds too absurd I was quite sure you'd point it out.
I don't mind you pointing my mistakes at all. I wish you'd do it more often. |
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| Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:29 am Yen From Malaysia |
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| NinaZara wrote: | | Yen wrote: | | Quote: | I studied mechanical engineering, and it is not boring. It is everything but boring.  |
| Quote: | Please don't say that. Nobody can be totally dumb at anything. Thing with women, from my observation is, other than they enjoy playing the role of a damsel in distress, is that they just stop thinking when faced with technical problems. If they only take the time to think they are as good as men. Maybe it is true that this talent is not innate (in women), but the knowledge can be learned. Seriously, we give too much credit to men.
But hey, why take the trouble when you can just bat your eyelashes, smile prettily and make men do all the work. As much as I want to play the "damsel", sometimes, I can't, I have a reputation.  |
I think you are right, it's just about who I am!! I'm the type of girl who doesn't like to get my hands dirty!! Whenever there's anything to do with machine, I will always surrender in the first instance!!  Perhaps I should try doing something with it!
| Quote: | Well, he is always measuring things. I think it's just his personality. Maybe I should listen to him once in a while  |
That's the young generation/ how children normally act when parents start to grumble. I have that problem too!! My parents last time always told me to study harder so I could afford a good job next time. But I just refuse to listen as I'm always the opposition to them!! Haha... Now when I try to think back, I should probably listen to them more that time! (May be it's not too late now though) 
| Yen wrote: | | Quote: | | Now I wonder if there is a grain of truth in his words. But no matter how hard or stressful I get, I chop my right hand off before I let him know! |
I'm sure your dad gave you the best opinion possible!! Nevertheless, there are many successful engineers who has succeeded in climbing the corporate ladder. (Probably my statements/ views are a bit bias to the banking & financial services sector since I'm in that industry) |
| Quote: | It's quite expensive here. Even if you go to a simple, not really famous salons, the fee is around 3000 to 5000 yen (RM90 to RM150) just for a simple cut, or just trimming your bangs. The customer service is world class though.
I never tried perming in salons. I don't trust people with that kind of risk. I have my own hot iron and hot curlers which I use for special occasions. |
I have a set of this thing too!! Seriously, I think I have got no talent in these things!! Anything to do with machineries!!  My hair ended up all frizzy and dry!!
| Quote: | | Oh by the way, avoid using "Jap". Some people think it's offensive. I don't know why. Never used it anyway. |
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Oh sorry dear, really do not know about it!! Many people are using the short form - Jap here to refer to Japanese!! Thanks for the info!! |
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| Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:32 am Yen From Malaysia |
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| Torsten wrote: | | Hi Nina and Yen, I've just browsed your conversation which is very interesting because it shows how too ESL speakers can share their experiences using English as a second language. Just one thing that caught my eye: the expression is use is 'it's anything but boring' rather than 'it's everything but boring'. Hope it's OK with you if I point out some of these things. |
HI Torsten and Nina, I wonder in what circumstances we can use "it's anything but boring"? Does it mean it can be anything but it's still not so interesting/ boring?
I have not used this phrase before!! I can add this to my personal note book!! 
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| Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:45 am Yen From Malaysia |
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Hi Yen, "anything but" means the opposite of. So if you say, "technical engineering is anything but boring" you mean that technical engineering is very interesting. A similar expression would be "it's far from boring".
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| Thu Apr 03, 2008 18:02 pm Yen From Malaysia |
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| Yen wrote: | | I think you are right, it's just about who I am!! I'm the type of girl who doesn't like to get my hands dirty!! Whenever there's anything to do with machine, I will always surrender in the first instance!! Sad Perhaps I should try doing something with it! |
I don't too. I bet nobody does. It's a good thing, I think. If they like it so much, why just don't let them do it. At work, I have to do most of my experiments in the process line, but sometimes I do it in a lab, where I don't have to clean up as much. In the process line, the cleaning up has a lot of rules to follow and sometimes I just couldn't bother myself with it I just ask technicians to clean up after I'm done. But if I am not so busy, I do it myself.
| Yen wrote: | | That's the young generation/ how children normally act when parents start to grumble. I have that problem too!! My parents last time always told me to study harder so I could afford a good job next time. But I just refuse to listen as I'm always the opposition to them!! Haha... Now when I try to think back, I should probably listen to them more that time! (May be it's not too late now though) Mr. Green |
Well I think it's also good to have our own opinion. I am always afraid that I won't have my own opinion if I am always following their guidance. But so far I think my parents pretty much let me decide things for myself.
| Yen wrote: | | Quote: | | I never tried perming in salons. I don't trust people with that kind of risk. I have my own hot iron and hot curlers which I use for special occasions. |
I have a set of this thing too!! Seriously, I think I have got no talent in these things!! Anything to do with machineries!! Crying or Very sad My hair ended up all frizzy and dry!! |
I don't too but we do what we can. If your hair ended up frizzy it might need anti-frizz product. What kind of hair do you have? Knowing your type of hair and choosing the right product for it helps. And avoid sun. It's damaging not only to the skin but hair too. They have hair spray with SPF nowadays. And wind also is damaging to hair. Or maybe you can just cover them up with scarfs. I have many friends who wear veils and their hair is in the best condition, unpolluted and unspoiled. The texture is just amazing.
| Yen wrote: | | Quote: | | Oh by the way, avoid using "Jap". Some people think it's offensive. I don't know why. Never used it anyway. |
Oh sorry dear, really do not know about it!! Many people are using the short form - Jap here to refer to Japanese!! Thanks for the info!! |
I don't know what to think of the term, really. I don't use it simply because I use the term in the language itself when referring to Japanese. Some Japanese might find it cool. Some might not even know it. |
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| Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:31 am Yen From Malaysia |
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| Quote: | | Hi Yen, "anything but" means the opposite of. So if you say, "technical engineering is anything but boring" you mean that technical engineering is very interesting. A similar expression would be "it's far from boring" |
Thanks Torsten!! So I can say "my husband is anything but rich"? "To be employed by this company is anything but good reputation"? |
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| Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:18 am Yen From Malaysia |
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| Quote: | | I don't too. I bet nobody does. It's a good thing, I think. If they like it so much, why just don't let them do it. Smile At work, I have to do most of my experiments in the process line, but sometimes I do it in a lab, where I don't have to clean up as much. In the process line, the cleaning up has a lot of rules to follow and sometimes I just couldn't bother myself with it I just ask technicians to clean up after I'm done. But if I am not so busy, I do it myself. |
That's girl I guess!! By the way, I wanted tell you this since we first written. You look pretty, girly and feminine. If you didn't tell that you are doing mechanical engineering, I would think you are in some beauty related industry!
| Quote: | | I don't too but we do what we can. If your hair ended up frizzy it might need anti-frizz product. What kind of hair do you have? Knowing your type of hair and choosing the right product for it helps. And avoid sun. It's damaging not only to the skin but hair too. They have hair spray with SPF nowadays. And wind also is damaging to hair. Or maybe you can just cover them up with scarfs. I have many friends who wear veils and their hair is in the best condition, unpolluted and unspoiled. The texture is just amazing. |
Yeah, I guess Malays' hair is better than others as they are wearing scarf. My hair is the combination type - hair nearest the head is greasy while the ends are dry. I don't normally use hair spray but hair oil. After shampoo, I will opt for a home treatment by using hair wax or hot oil. But it doesn't work to the perfect result as I have permed, straighten and colored my hair before. |
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| Tue Apr 08, 2008 14:48 pm Yen From Malaysia |
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Sorry for what? I don't think you said anything wrong...There's no need to apologize. I am used to it. I think it's entertaining sometimes.
When I am back in Malaysia me and my mother always go to the same night market(pasar malam), to buy fruits. My mother is kind of friendly with everybody so she sort of developed a good rapport with all the tauke buah there 
One tauke buah asked my mother, "Nyonya, amoi mana ini?" So my mother replied, "Anaklah...sapa lagi." The tauke didn't believe her so he said, "Anak kah? Betul ah? Apa muka macam Cina..." So my mother just said, "Anak aku angkat dulu..." I think it's hilarious. The situation was just funny, but I didn't laugh, I gave the tauke buah my best most serious face. Actually I am dying inside...
If you are still wondering, it's my grandmother. She's Chinese. Anak tauke kedai in my kampung.
About the hair supplement. I really can't recommend, because I don't take any. But I heard nuts and fish are good for hair. They are rich with protein, so that's no wonder. I can give you advice on skin though. I do detox once a week, where I just eat vegetables, or depending on my mood I just drink fruit juice with honey 3 days a week. It's really good for skin, plus it's very convenient, I don't have to cook. And I also take collagen to maintain a youthful skin. Just a preventive measure. I am just crazy about skincare. Sometimes I do wonder whether I had chose the wrong profession
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| Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:13 am Yen From Malaysia |
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| NinaZara wrote: | | Sorry for what? I don't think you said anything wrong...There's no need to apologize. I am used to it. I think it's entertaining sometimes. |
When I am back in Malaysia me and my mother always go to the same night market(pasar malam), to buy fruits. My mother is kind of friendly with everybody so she sort of developed a good rapport with all the tauke buah there
| Quote: | | One tauke buah asked my mother, "Nyonya, amoi mana ini?" So my mother replied, "Anaklah...sapa lagi." The tauke didn't believe her so he said, "Anak kah? Betul ah? Apa muka macam Cina..." So my mother just said, "Anak aku angkat dulu..." I think it's hilarious. The situation was just funny, but I didn't laugh, I gave the tauke buah my best most serious face. Actually I am dying inside... |
Haha... That must be fun. You are having more advantages though. Since many mistaken you as Chinese, then they won't dare to talk things in cantonese in front of you. (At least they thought you can understand them)
| Quote: | | If you are still wondering, it's my grandmother. She's Chinese. Anak tauke kedai in my kampung. |
Mixed parentage! No wonder looks pretty!!
| Quote: | | About the hair supplement. I really can't recommend, because I don't take any. But I heard nuts and fish are good for hair. They are rich with protein, so that's no wonder. I can give you advice on skin though. I do detox once a week, where I just eat vegetables, or depending on my mood I just drink fruit juice with honey 3 days a week. It's really good for skin, plus it's very convenient, I don't have to cook. And I also take collagen to maintain a youthful skin. Just a preventive measure. I am just crazy about skincare. Sometimes I do wonder whether I had chose the wrong profession |
Wow, you are doing detox by eating only fruits, veges and non other food!? I saw one article on Female Magazine before introducing about this. I have not tried it before, but I don't think I can ever cope with it. Don't you feel hungry? But I can't deny that it's a very good tool to keep skin healthy and keep slim. I wish I can do that! But I just couldn't stand hunger!! How do you do that ya?
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| Wed Apr 09, 2008 15:57 pm Yen From Malaysia |
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| Yen wrote: | | Haha... That must be fun. You are having more advantages though. Since many mistaken you as Chinese, then they won't dare to talk things in cantonese in front of you. (At least they thought you can understand them) |
Sure they do. Whenever I go to shops run by Chinese people, they always assumed I'm Chinese and started speaking in Chinese. I grew tired of it and just play along, saying nothing, just nodding and smiling, pretending I understand them.
| Yen wrote: | | Quote: | | If you are still wondering, it's my grandmother. She's Chinese. Anak tauke kedai in my kampung. |
Mixed parentage! No wonder looks pretty!! |
I'm not sure we can put it that way. It's only my grandmother. Thank you for the compliment anyway, you're very kind. I have changed my avatar with me wearing the veil so now I look more like a Malay.
| Yen wrote: | | Quote: | | About the hair supplement. I really can't recommend, because I don't take any. But I heard nuts and fish are good for hair. They are rich with protein, so that's no wonder. I can give you advice on skin though. I do detox once a week, where I just eat vegetables, or depending on my mood I just drink fruit juice with honey 3 days a week. It's really good for skin, plus it's very convenient, I don't have to cook. And I also take collagen to maintain a youthful skin. Just a preventive measure. I am just crazy about skincare. Sometimes I do wonder whether I had chose the wrong profession |
Wow, you are doing detox by eating only fruits, veges and non other food!? I saw one article on Female Magazine before introducing about this. I have not tried it before, but I don't think I can ever cope with it. Don't you feel hungry? But I can't deny that it's a very good tool to keep skin healthy and keep slim. I wish I can do that! But I just couldn't stand hunger!! How do you do that ya? |
I do it once a week, depending on my social schedule sometimes I do it once in a fortnight. 2 or 3 days nothing but fruits or raw vegetables, or salad with no dressing. And it is not true that you'd go hungry. How can you be hungry if your intake is mostly sugar? Fruit juice is GREAT for the skin but the sugar content is very high too. You will not feel hungry. Actually if you want to lose some weight you should watch for this. I don't really care because I need the energy to last the day. It's like eating chocolate for instant filling, when you don't have time to eat. Seriously, don't worry about becoming hungry. Try it.
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