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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #1 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:21 am   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

1/ We are not used to having visitors ... our house after 9 p.m
a. to
b. at
c. in
d. into

2/ Is this the first year that you ... to this country?
a. come
b. have come
=> I know that in British English, the correct choice is B, but I wonder if we can use A in American English or spoken English.

Thanks a lot
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #2 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:18 am   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

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1-- What do you htink?
2-- A sounds odd to my AmE ear.
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #3 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:27 am   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

So we never use "Is this the first year that you come to this country?" in any situation?

As for question 1, I choose "in" but my teacher said it should be "at", so I want to see about your idea of which is right
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #4 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 14:39 pm   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

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1-- at is better and native.
2-- No.
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #5 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 15:45 pm   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

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I agree with MM.
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #6 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:40 am   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

But I still think "in" is more ok.I've searched on Google and seen that "in" is used quite a lot.
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #7 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:30 am   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

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Then don't bother asking us in future.
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #8 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 16:47 pm   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

Oh come on Mister Micawber (I'd like to call you "Charles", but I dare not), I know that was not very polite of me to disagree with you, but I just want to discuss. It was only a slip of the tongue, ok? I am very sorry if I ever cause any vexation. I don't want to argue or to not obey you (whom I consider my teachers) but you know, I have checked on Google, and I've found that both cases can be used. Moreover, it seems that the use of "having visitors in our house" is used more than "having visitors at our house". That's why I want to tell you so that we can discuss.
Hope you don't mind my being so fussy
A zillion thanks.
Nessie
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #9 (permalink) Sun Apr 06, 2008 17:45 pm   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

Hi Nessie

Using the word 'in' would put extra emphasis on the idea that the visitors were inside the house.

If I say something such as "Mary is at John's house", it is already understood that Mary is probably inside. There is no need to place any extra emphasis on this. However, using 'at' also includes the possibility that Mary might be spending part of her time in John's back yard, and the rest of her time in the house. "At" refers to Mary's general location.

I might say something like this:

I prefer to have canine visitors outside my house rather than in it.
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Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?) #10 (permalink) Mon Apr 07, 2008 16:29 pm   Optional test (Is this the first year that you ... to this country?)
 

Thanks a lot, Amy, I understand it now Smile
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