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#2 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:12 am Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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| "The strong" are "they" and not "it". They survive. |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:32 am Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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Thank you Molly
another question, how could you tell "the strong" is plural and not singular? It is hard for me to tell because there is no "s" at the end like "the strongs"
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#4 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:27 am Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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Hi Ched,
Adjectives are often used as nouns and in that way they are assumed to refer to a number or a group. We can talk about the rich and the poor and in that sense we are talking about poor and rich people and not an individual. If we wanted to indicate singularity, we would have to revert to the adjective function and say: The rich one/the poor one as in: There are two brothers in this town, the rich one lives here and the poor one lives at the other end of town.
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#5 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:51 am Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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Thank you Molly
another question, how could you tell "the strong" is plural and not singular? It is hard for me to tell because there is no "s" at the end like "the strongs" |
What would these be in your language, Ched?
the police the weak the poor the downtrodden the fortunate |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:21 am Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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Hi,
The one I have ever heard of is: "Only the strong will survive" Is there any difference with "Only the strong survive"? _________________ 各位前輩安安, 我是kitty喔! |
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#7 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 17:13 pm Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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Hi Molly
>>What would these be in your language, Ched? >>the police the weak the poor the downtrodden the fortunate
There is no singular or plural in Chinese. We just use many to indicate plural.
Thanks Alan and Molly, i will remember that "the adjective" = plural. |
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#8 (permalink) Fri Apr 04, 2008 19:46 pm Phrase: only the strong survive. Why 'survive' and not 'survives'? |
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The word "adjective" is not an adjective like 'poor'. It is a noun or a naming word which refers to words like 'good' or 'bad.' So here this noun(the word 'adjective') is a singular noun and adding 'the' will not make it refer to a group. You have to use 'the adjectives' if you want the plural. I hope I made myself clear. Best of luck. n |
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