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Molly:
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It's called getting emotional, Aleaf. Most of us understand such outburts, and some of us have them. Don't you? We who do, do not like a smart as* coming along and passing judgement on our ability to be literate. So, your "It makes you rude and illiterate although your english is not bad." comment was much ruder, IMO. One can easily tell from the rest of Neverland's post that he is far from being illiterate. So it is you who needs to control your language, isn't it?
Ok if you can stand such kinda emotional. But as far as i am concerned, F*** is rude and illiterate.
Second: anyone who always says F*** impresses me rude and and illiterate no matter he is Neverland or he is a president. Sure we can express ourselves, but we shouldn't use bad words, it will worsen problems and it is kinda humiliating.Would you say that word to your parents? if not, don't say that to anybody. Because all of us are human beings of emotion.
I surely know he is not illiterate in knowledge sense.But if he uses this word he is rude in my opinion and makes me uncomfortable. |
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| Fri Apr 11, 2008 15:41 pm Five poor countries in the world |
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| When we chinese's opinions are different from others. The strongest word to let us shut up seems to be :"brainwashed". Only stupid people can be brainwashed. so this word is also very rude and humiliating. If you can justify your opinion, the word is avoidable. |
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| Fri Apr 11, 2008 17:19 pm Five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | Second: anyone who always says F*** impresses me rude and and illiterate no matter he is Neverland or he is a president. |
Great, but does Neverland always say it?
| Quote: | | But if he uses this word he is rude in my opinion and makes me uncomfortable. |
I understand, but have you considered that you may also make people uncomfortable when you suggest they are illiterate? Your words may laso be seen as offensive. Using "bad" words is not the only way to offend people. |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:44 am Five poor countries in the world |
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| aleaf wrote: | | When we chinese's opinions are different from others. The strongest word to let us shut up seems to be :"brainwashed". Only stupid people can be brainwashed. so this word is also very rude and humiliating. If you can justify your opinion, the word is avoidable. |
If you think only stupid people can be brainwashed.then you are just insulting your countrymen now!You showed rudeness again and again! |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:18 am Five poor countries in the world |
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| aleaf wrote: | | When we chinese's opinions are different from others. The strongest word to let us shut up seems to be :"brainwashed". Only stupid people can be brainwashed. so this word is also very rude and humiliating. If you can justify your opinion, the word is avoidable. |
I have seen very intelligent people be brainwashed in quite a few situations. In fact, it's often easier to brainwash an intelligent person than it is a stupid person, because the intelligent person is capable of seeing more points of view, so he is one step closer to believing them.
Also, it's not hard for a con artist to swindle an intelligent person. He just needs the right skills. |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:39 am Five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | I have seen very intelligent people be brainwashed in quite a few situations. |
One example: millions of American and British citizens were brainwashed into thinking that Saddam Hussein was of more a threat that he really was. The consequences are apparent.
Another: thousands of nonnative English speakers brainwashed into believing that AmE and BrE are the only true, correct and respectable forms of the language.
Three: Millions of people brainwashed into thinking that every Muslim in the world is out to kill them.
All the above are probably quite intelligent folk, but at least we can have faith in these words:
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln, (attributed) |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:39 pm Five poor countries in the world |
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molly:
1.you wrote:
Great, but does Neverland always say it?
What is the difference between only one time and many times? People who killed one person and people who killed a lot of people are both called killers.
2. you wrote:
I understand, but have you considered that you may also make people uncomfortable when you suggest they are illiterate? Your words may laso be seen as offensive. Using "bad" words is not the only way to offend people.
If I offended him. I say sorry. But I won't change his impression on me by his words. F*** is an unacceptable word in my dictionary. |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:42 pm Five poor countries in the world |
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Neverland: you wrote:
If you think only stupid people can be brainwashed.then you are just insulting your countrymen now!You showed rudeness again and again!
No i haven't because i don't admit we are brainwashed. It is you who said that.
Everyone is influenced by the culture, education background, media and so on so that he/she has different point of view towards the same case. But they are not brainwashed. The word is terriblly vicious and humiliating because when you say somebody is brainwashed you think you are superior to him/her and wiser.The subconscious meaning is "you see, stupid you, you are cheated." |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:48 pm Five poor countries in the world |
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| Molly wrote: | | Another: thousands of nonnative English speakers brainwashed into believing that AmE and BrE are the only true, correct and respectable forms of the language. |
Another: Thousands of linguistics and ESL teaching students brainwashed into believing that there's no difference between native English speech and really good non-native English speech, that non-standard forms are as valid as standard forms, and that all of them should be accepted on the same level.
Some people get so brainwashed into this notion that it becomes an obsession that they bring up in any conversation, no matter what the original topic was.
As for Saddam Hussein, keep watching, because not all the documentation and witness testimony has been sifted through. |
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| Sat Apr 12, 2008 19:50 pm Five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | that non-standard forms are as valid as standard forms, and that all of them should be accepted on the same level. |
Whom shouldn't non-standard forms be accepted by?
| Quote: | | As for Saddam Hussein, keep watching, because not all the documentation and witness testimony has been sifted through. |
Shame you didn't wait for that before you blundered into Iraq. |
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| Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:24 am Five poor countries in the world |
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Neverland: you wrote:
If you think only stupid people can be brainwashed.then you are just insulting your countrymen now!You showed rudeness again and again!
No i haven't because i don't admit we are brainwashed. It is you who said that.
Everyone is influenced by the culture, education background, media and so on so that he/she has different point of view towards the same case. But they are not brainwashed. The word is terriblly vicious and humiliating because when you say somebody is brainwashed you think you are superior to him/her and wiser.The subconscious meaning is "you see, stupid you, you are cheated."
Dear aleaf:
I think you just pretended that you are a well-educated chinese guy!
I think your sentence is somewhat ridiculous(The word is terriblly vicious and humiliating because when you say somebody is brainwashed )
I have to say that i am not superior to others , but you!!
You just acted like a people who has absolutely been brainwashed by your Great CCP!
And my impression on you is (sham), Fu-ck-ing is a word which was created by the great human. when people use this word that means he or she wanna criticise extremely!!!!!
Do not conceal yourself! I am really really fed up your false & untruthful expression.
Your hypocrisy turns my stomach.
I think most of member think you are hypocritical. |
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| Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:09 am Five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | Neverland said:
No i haven't because i don't admit we are brainwashed. It is you who said that.
Everyone is influenced by the culture, education background, media and so on so that he/she has different point of view towards the same case. But they are not brainwashed. The word is terriblly vicious and humiliating because when you say somebody is brainwashed you think you are superior to him/her and wiser.The subconscious meaning is "you see, stupid you, you are cheated." |
Would you say these people were brainwashed?
| Quote: | ALAMOGORDO, N.M. (AP) - As hundreds protested nearby, a
church group burned Harry Potter and other books.
Jack Brock, the Christ Community Church founder and
pastor, said the books burned Sunday were ``a
masterpiece of satanic deception.''
``These books teach children how they can get into
witchcraft and become a witch, wizard or warlock,''
Brock said. Members sang ``Amazing Grace'' as they threw
Potter books, plus some other books and magazines, into
the fire. |
Or the subject of these words? Brainwashed?
| Quote: | Introduction: Are You Brainwashed?
Are you brainwashed? What about some of your neighbors, are they brainwashed? Before you answer that, let us ask you a few preliminary questions: Do you believe that the United States was struck by a terrorist attack on Sept. 11? Do think that the people behind that attack were "Arabs" and that its "mastermind" was this fellow Osama bin Laden, operating from a cave in Afghanistan? Do you believe that the way to stop terrorism is to hit them hard, to hit them at their "bases" in such places as Afghanistan, and to hit the nations who might sponsor them, like, say Iraq?
http://www.rense.com/general15/tr.htm |
Or these youth?
| Quote: | Western military power would be of no use against the very long-term and slow but steady Islamist advance from within western countries. The western Islamists are not likely to listen to the voice of reason so long as Mecca , Medina and the Ka’aba stay wealthy and strong and they are allowed to sit in comfortable mosques brainwashing the headstrong and emotional among the western Islamist youth. The key to defeating terrorism lies in the economic and political manipulation of Saudi Arabia .
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/islamicterrorismdefeated.shtml |
Are they not examples of brainwashing, or attempts at such? |
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| Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:29 am Five poor countries in the world |
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| Hi all, seemd it's quite contentious when we're talking about socialism & capitalism. |
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| Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:37 am Five poor countries in the world |
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| aleaf wrote: | | Forth: China is not a pure capitalism society no matter on economical sense or on political sense. It may be very similiar to capitalism economically. Besides: it doesn't matter we are socialism or capitalism, it just a name meaning nothing. |
Hey aleaf,
I won't stop being hostile to that "hammer & scimitar party" till they admit they're runing capitalism.
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