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#3 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:39 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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| I did rather fancy a beer, but I resisted. |
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#4 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:15 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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Hi Molly,
Nice point.
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#5 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:17 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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Hi Molly,
Nice point.
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#6 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:32 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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Hi,
Raaaather, don't you know.
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#7 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:52 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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| I did rather fancy a beer, but I resisted. |
Hi, Amy
What Molly wrote isn't quite correct, right? It must read "I would rather fancy a beer", musn't it? |
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#8 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:09 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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Hi LS,
If I could answer this for you. As you know, 'rather' indicates preference/inclination to do something. In a sentence beginning: 'I would rather/I'd rather', you are indicating what you would like to do if you had the opportunity as in: I would rather go out into the fresh air rather than sit here bashing away at a keyboard. If later after that time someone had asked the question: Would you rather have gone out into fresh air than have sat bashing away at a keyboard? You could answer: I did rather - suggesting that 'going out was the preference at that time. That's a bit convoluted but I hope the point is made!
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#9 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:25 am Did rather vs Would rather |
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| I did rather fancy a beer, but I resisted. |
Hi, Amy
What Molly wrote isn't quite correct, right? It must read "I would rather fancy a beer", musn't it? |
Not in the past.
This is also possible:
"He did rather embarrass us somewhat."
"She did rather acquire a reputation for speaking first and thinking later, didn't he?" |
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#11 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 22:16 pm Did rather vs Would rather |
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| The word 'did' can be used emphatically, or it can be used to create a sort of polite tentativeness. The word 'rather' can be used to modify the degree of the verb. |
I'd say "did rather", in that use, is a modal expression. It's a unit. Or maybe not. It's also of the type "I was hoping you could help me" (indirect/present time use/tentative or, sometimes, obligating).
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In a pub.
A: Let's leave before she gets here.
B: I want a drink (direct)/I do rather want a drink (less direct)/I did rather want a drink. (indirect)/I was hoping we could have a drink. (indirect) |
Yet sometimes, it isn't only the auxiliary "do" which is used emphatically, but "rather" also.
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| "Graham I do rather resent it when there are other council committees, there's Town Hall Strategy ..." |
That use is often more forceful than "I do resent it when..."., IMO.
Here's memorable one.
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'I do rather object to the sort of chap who farts in public and then says "Better out than in."'
Little victims. Barnard, Robert. London: Corgi Books, 1993 |
We also have.
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| Must we leave now? I did quite want a drink. |
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#12 (permalink) Tue Apr 15, 2008 22:28 pm Did rather vs Would rather |
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Which sounds less forceful?
I am rather angry with you. I am angry with you? |
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#14 (permalink) Sun Oct 26, 2008 21:29 pm Did rather vs Would rather |
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Is it okay to say: "Sorry about the video recording quality, we rather danced." meaning while someone was recording a video he was also dancing, that's why the quality is low.
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#15 (permalink) Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:39 pm Did rather vs Would rather |
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Here are some examples of various versions of Molly's sentence. None of them are questions. The word "rather" modifies the degree of the verb and the word "do" ("did") is used emphatically.
Simple present tense:
==>"I fancy a beer." = "I want a beer."
==>"I rather fancy a beer." = The word "rather" does not indicate preference. Instead it modifies the degree of the verb "fancy".
==>"I do rather fancy a beer." = The word "do" is used emphatically.
Simple past tense:
==>"I fancied a beer." = "I wanted a beer."
==>"I rather fancied a beer." = The word "rather" modifies the degree of the verb "fancy". The sentence refers to the past.
==>"I did rather fancy a beer." = The word "did" is used emphatically, and because "did" is used, the verb "fancy" is in the past form. The word "rather" is used to modify the degree of the verb. . |
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